APCOA windscreen PCN parked in wrong bay - says Penalty Charge - Sutton Station Car Park

[BillyS]

Hi, 

My friend recently hurrying to work, parked at local station, promptly paid for parking and went to work. 

 

When she returned to her car she found a PCN attached to the vehicle for parking in the wrong space, she'd apparently parked in a space designated for premier parking permit holders only.  If this is correct it was a genuine mistake.

Is there anything we can do to challenge this, or to suck it up and pay the reduced '£60' penalty. 

 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

[dx100uk]

it is not a penalty nor a fine

 

please complete this:

 

 

[BillyS]

Thank-you, will complete that now.  

I am quoting the word 'penalty' reservedly from the paperwork they fixed to the vehicle.

 

For a windscreen ticket (Notice To Driver) please answer the following questions....

 

1 The date of infringement? 30/08/2022
 

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] Not yet
 

If you have then please post up whatever you sent and how you sent it and the date you sent it,

suitably redacted. [as a PDF- follow the upload guide]

 

Has there been a response? N/A
 

Please AS A PDFFILE  ONLY ..post it up as well, suitably redacted. - follow the upload guide]

 

If you haven't appealed yet - .........DONT ! seek advice on your topic first.

 

Have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] Not Yet (though this will go in the first instance to the hire company)
 

What date is on it? N/A
 

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? N/A
 

[scan up BOTHSIDES to ONE PDF of the PCN and your NTK - follow the upload guide]

 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] N/A
 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,

did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process?

[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] N/A
 

5 Who is the parking company? APCOA
 

6. Where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? Sutton Station Car Park

 

apcoa PCN.pdf

[dx100uk]

really?

a private parking company are not allowed to use the words penalty fine etc etc

scan it up too

 

dx

 

[BillyS]

That surprised me too, I guess APCOA didn't get the memo! or is there a difference to due their quoting Railway Byelaws (and criminal conviction) as a basis?.  The paperwork is attached in the completed questionnaire above.

Edited September 5, 2022 by BillyS

[dx100uk]

sorry yes

what about the top part 

what does it actually say.

 

penalty charge notice?

 

 

[BillyS]

New copy received.  'Penalty' Notice.  Do I need to look at the alternative process instead?

H APCOA PDF 3.pdf

Edited September 5, 2022 by BillyS

[dx100uk]

What he does now is NOTHING, nada ZERO.

 

i even suggest ignoring a letter of claim.

 

if as they say, its a PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE, for enforcement of railway byelaws then it will be a magistrates court and the fine goes to the state, not APCOE nor the railway co.

 

so as far as i can see, if you type in apcoa station in our enhanced google search box.

 

Dx

[lookinforinfo]

These Penalty notices only stay in force for 6 months unlike the Parking charge notices that have a life of 6 years in England. So just keep your head down, ignore everything they send. they will not go to court since they make nothing out of it.

They make their money by the people who think they will end up in court, so they pay them to avoid something that is not going to happen to them.

[BillyS]

Reading further down the earlier attachment, they make reference to 'entering into a contract', 'accepting terms and conditions displayed' and POPLA appeals, once exhausted their own APCOA process. It's difficult to understand what they intend to rely on, byelaws or contract.

All very confusing, by design I suspect.

Edited September 6, 2022 by BillyS

[dx100uk]

its just a scam to get money.

APCOA cant do anything if you dont pay, or more importantly wont get anything even if it goes to court.

 

as byelaws are mentioned and it says penalty etc, sure as eggs is eggs , its a penalty charge notice not a speculative invoice.

 

the railway authority have 6mts.

ignore everyone else.