CPS ANPR PCN - overstay - Spring St, Hull HU2 8RA ***Cancelled***

[ericsbrother]

not a legal NTK,

they say they have photographic evidence but fail to include it and also they dont have a correct service address,

companies cannot use a PO Box No when sending out NTK's so that means they have failed to create ANY liability,

let alone a keeper liability.

 

You are right about the lack of keeper liability as it was sent too late for that.

 

Do not appeal this but keep the letter safe and in the meanwhle get us some pictures of the site entrance and any signage present there and in the car park if possible. If there is a payment meter then pictures of that and any associated blurb.

 

From what I see on google noseyparker there is just a sign saying terms and conditions apply see notice around for details with no info on who the signs belong to or indication that you may be asked to pay any a million quid if you dont agree with them.

 

At the moment your brother holds all of the chips but dont let him panic and hand them victory on a plate just to make this go away.

 

They will bother him for quite a while but if you read a good bundle of the threads you will see that IPC memebrs generally chuck the towel in because they are poorly served by the solicitors who own the IPC

[ericsbrother]

Indeed very odd wording, it appears to say that you pay £100 for parking as a condition of entering the land but no mention of any terms for a breach of contract. Confusing at best, esp if they have payment machines as then you shouldnt get a receipt until you have fed £100 into the machine. No such thing as an overstay, nothing about parking over the limes or the use of disabled bays.

Company details are PO Box as already said so no clarity on who is offering you anything.

 

However, I dont agree that sending a letter at this stage will do any good, anyone this stupid isnt going to accept the truth is at variance with their greed. Also Will and John at the IPC claim they vet every sign so their trade association as just as thick as they are.

Let them waste their time and money a bit longer, when you get to a proper threat of court from Will and John at Gladstones

[ericsbrother]

they hope that you think they have some powers or authority and are scared into apying them this amount before it goes up again.  they stick to under £200 as they know peopel will query any amount above that and the find out that nothing can be added at all!

[ericsbrother]

so they are telling you to pay a third party rather than them or their client.

Spreading the jam a bit thin arent they?

No it isnt a LBA so sit tight for the moment

 

As for multiple car parks, you need to be able to show where your car was parked and find out who owns the land for each of the three. There will be different contracts for each even if the signs are the same they wont apply to  separate patches of land and identifiable as a single place so postcode of place is critical.

 

according to royalmail it covers 35-39 spring st so go and check who owns the properties by asking the council business rates people or the Valuations Agency. They are sometimes very helpful and sometimes as awkward as civil servants can get so dont be put off if you are rebuffed first time.

 

[ericsbrother]

the wording of the second letter may get them into trouble as it fails to explain HOW all of the threats could result in any of the actions being taken.

 

they fail to mention that they have to go to court and win for starters

so heading it a pre enforcement letter is utterly wrong and stating that "after applications have been granted" and a list of impacts is an abuse of the civil procedure as the application is for issuing a summons.

 

they make a big thing out of their infamy of being on the telly when it is entirely irrelevant

[ericsbrother]

we may have to create a new category of threatogram just for them, the w***ergram