CP PLUS charge notice at MOTO Heston West **CANCELLED**

[vweb]

Hi,

 

New here, would appreciate a good advice!

 

Received a 'CHARGE NOTICE' from something called CP PLUS limited.

The letter states there are BPA member and the postal address is PO BOX 3573, Barnet, EN5 9QA

 

They sent a photo of me going in and out the private car park (that's heston west services to do with costa, travelodge, etc.).

They say I overstayed by 50 minutes.

They provide a photo of the sign saying that parking charges apply after 2 hours, how to pay post 2 hours and that camera enforcement is in operation.

 

Few questions:

 

1) Along with phone (03339390104) and address, they also provide a link to appeal:

APPEALPCN.CO.UK

This looks VERY dodgy, and besides it is an unsecure form.

Is this legit at all?

 

2) I can't see their company website address anywhere, is that normal?

Searching cp plus online doesn't give much info either.

[problem]?

 

3) They demand £100 to be reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days. Is that a reasonable charge at all?

 

Any advice?

 

Many thanks

[Bazooka Boo]

Wait for others to advise you first.

 

However DO NOTHING yet.

 

Can you scan and post up the begging letter they sent you, ENSURE you remove ALL identifiers first.

 

When did you park here?

 

When did they send you this letter?

 

Is it addressed to the registered keeper, or marked Notice To Keeper?

[dx100uk]

https://cse.google.co.uk/cse?cx=partner-pub-0964707606882478:652l7hswbgv&ie=UTF-8&q=cp%2B+services+&sa=Search+CAG#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=cp%2B%20services&gsc.page=1

[vweb]

Bazooka Boo: thanks, attaching the scans!

 

Received a week after parking.

 

Says 'issued to'.

 

dx100uk: thanks, looks like those links are quote old though and this company quotes parking eye v Beavis.

 

IN ADDITION: I only stopped there because there was a huge traffic accident on M4 blocking EVERYTHING and actually there were 2-3 hour queues, almost standing and nowhere else to go/park. So I managed to slip into these services and moved away only after the situation has been resolved on M4. I had no choice really!

[dx100uk]

bevis means nothing .

simply willy waving it applies

it doesn't.

[Bazooka Boo]

Usual garbage from CP plus.

[vweb]

Any suggestion how to fight them off?

[renegadeimp]

Sit tight and wait for the regulars. Theres no rush at all.

[dx100uk]

read the threads in post 3

 

 

dx

[ericsbrother]

the demand is not compliant with the PoFA to create keeper liability as it fails to say who the creditor is.

 

 

I would also bet that if the signage at the site is the same as the letter

then there is no contract as the signage has inadequate terms to form one.

 

A short letter saying that "the signage you refer to is inadequate to form a contract

and you have failed to create a keeper liability under the PoFA 2012 by way of your current actions.

Desist from further communication as this will be construed as harassment and dealt with accordingly".

 

No need to be overtly polite and dont add to this by way of explanation about the event

or anything about who was driving at the time.

 

 

If they respond they must offer you the chance of appealing to an "independent" assessor.

Failure to do that kills any chance of a future legal claim.

[vweb]

ericsbrother, thanks! i'll try and post the results here.

[vweb]

Just received another letter demanding to pay the full amount since 14 days discount has been passed. They haven't responded to my appeal at all. What to do?

[dx100uk]

nothing await the appeal reply

[vweb]

dx100uk: I've sent the wording ericsbrother kindly provided. Do you think that counts as an 'appeal'? Are they obliged by law to respond to any correspondence in regards to the PCN?

[dx100uk]

post 10

[Bazooka Boo]

They won't 'respond' by Law or anything, as they are morally bankrupt and they don't even abide by the Law themselves.

 

They are simply hoping and preying that you will cough up so they can continue their unlawful demands on other innocent motorists.

[vweb]

So why don't we actually do referendums on really useful things: looks like there is a lot of unclear and messy stuff in motoring alone. Someone should be responsible for this mess.

[renegadeimp]

The government allows them to self regulate. Remember, these are the cowboy clampers. Same people different tactics. And it took them YEARS to shut them down.

[vweb]

SUCCESS!!! Thank you!!

 

 

OUTGOING:

 

"The signage you refer to is inadequate to form a contract and you have failed to create a keeper liability under the PoFA 2012 by way of your current actions.

 

In addition, the online resource offered as the first contact represents a major violation of the Data Protection Act also since communication is not encrypted and thus personal information could be intercepted and stolen by third parties.

 

Desist from further communication as this will be construed as harassment and dealt with accordingly."

 

INCOMING:

 

"Thank you for your correspondence concerning the above stated PCN.

 

In light of your claims, the representations stated in your appeal have been noted and upheld.

 

We can confirm this Notice has been cancelled in full and no further action will take place on this occasion."

[dx100uk]

well done

 

 

dx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Homer67]

I reckon CP Plus have realised that if someone gives a knowledgeable response they know they will get nowhere with their threatening letters and are now cutting their losses and backing off. Good result.