Will this become a persistent issue, threats to Enforcers

[brassnecked]

Another from Scoop where a bailiff/EA has been threatened, this time with a gun:

 

.http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/man-released-bail-after-bailiffs-7929055

 

It seems that more people are unhappy with the Enforcement industry, and is this a growing trend Thoughts?

[citizenB]

This is very worrying and sadly will end up causing problems for others who are going to be victims of the "Enforcers".

 

It is ironic that after years of intimidating and threatening behaviour from Bailiffs - they are now feeling the same way.

[unclebulgaria67]

I think this has always happened, but the EA's now take the threats more seriously, so will report to Police.

 

At some stage EA's will get seriously injured or worse. At that point I would think that some EA's will think whether they are getting paid enough for the risk.

[outlawla]

Not making an excuse for what their jobs entail but you can understand why they think it justified when the government tell them it's an essential service they provide for the country's good law abiding citizens who do pay their debts with the message reinforced with the reward of being permitted to rifle through the pockets of the poorest of society.

 

A bit off the topic really I suppose, but the people responsible for the reason EAs exist are the ones kept safe in the houses of parliament who don't have to deal with the real life consequences of their policies.

[unclebulgaria67]

Not making an excuse for what their jobs entail but you can understand why they think it justified when the government tell them it's an essential service they provide for the country's good law abiding citizens who do pay their debts with the message reinforced with the reward of being permitted to rifle through the pockets of the poorest of society.

 

A bit off the topic really I suppose, but the people responsible for the reason EAs exist are the ones kept safe in the houses of parliament who don't have to deal with the real life consequences of their policies.

 

But debt collection has gone on for hundreds of years. I suspect if you went back 60 or 70 years ago, you would have had bailiffs kicking down peoples doors and saying pay up or they would take items from the house. Atleast now politicians have passed laws which control bailiffs actions and confirm citizens rights.

 

Going off topic, I think that if government tried harder to collect tax that should be due from business, they would not have to bring in things like bedroom tax and we may not have thousands of food banks. Businesses escape paying tax and also don't pay a living wage, therefore government brings in tax credits and food banks are set up. I think the current estimate for business tax avoidance is £35 billion a year.

[ploddertom]

 

Going off topic, I think that if government tried harder to collect tax that should be due from business, they would not have to bring in things like bedroom tax and we may not have thousands of food banks. Businesses escape paying tax and also don't pay a living wage, therefore government brings in tax credits and food banks are set up. I think the current estimate for business tax avoidance is £35 billion a year.

 

 

Think that should be amended to read big businesses as I well know what I pay, the penalties if I don't & don't get me started on trying to get back what is owed by HMRC.

[brassnecked]

Think that should be amended to read big businesses as I well know what I pay, the penalties if I don't & don't get me started on trying to get back what is owed by HMRC.

 

HMRC are ripe for a bailiff visit, now which company will sue them and get a CCJ for that unrepaid overpaid tax?

[ericsbrother]

you cant sue HMRC, they have crown immunity, which is why they treat people like dirt and never admit they are wrong until they are publicly humiliated.

[brassnecked]

you cant sue HMRC, they have crown immunity, which is why they treat people like dirt and never admit they are wrong until they are publicly humiliated.

I think you will find they are subject tio the Human Rights Act and the Europeanb Convention on Human Rights, and those trump Crown Immunity, but yes they are virtually untouchable sadly.