out of the blue final notice

[alexkerrblack]

hi all,

i've just had a leter through my door from marston group saying i owe £408 for 'offence:board train in non compulsory ticket area withou. 27/01/2014' (sic).

 

they say they're in possesion of a magistrates court order.

 

i have no recollection of this and believe it to be false

 

but there aren't any contact details other than the 24hr automated paymeent line.

 

should i go straight to the court?

 

also, will it be my nearest magistrates court as there are no details of which court or where this 'offence' took place.

 

there is a hm courts and tribunals service ref but i can't find where i'd use it on the hm site.

any ideas?

cheers

alex

[ploddertom]

Are you saying you have no knowledge of being accused of being on a train without a valid ticket?

[alexkerrblack]

yeah. i do use trains though not been stopped for not having a valid ticket on the date they said. i just want info about it and it looks like marston are only there to collect the fine

[dx100uk]

nor any day in the last few months?

 

dx

[alexkerrblack]

it did happen about a year and a half ago but definatley not on the date it says on the letter.

 

fair enough if it is about that time,

 

i'll obv pay it but i can't pay in such short notice.

[matt v atos]

Alexkerrblack

 

First you say you have no recollection of this and believe it to be false

 

then say it did happen about a year and a half ago.

 

You must tell the truth If you are looking for advice.

[alexkerrblack]

i mean for the date on the letter, no, it definately didn't happen.

 

i just need to know where to go to find out about whats going on.

 

would you say citizens advice or just straight to the local magistrates?

[brassnecked]

Magistrates to enquire who the summons was sent to.

[alexkerrblack]

ta. presumingly any magistrates with the ref i've got? don't understand why this company can just post a letter asking for money without giving information. i thought it might be a [problem].

[mikeymack2002]

If indeed you knew nothing of this case then apply for a Statutory Declaration,

 

you have 21 days once you were aware of this information.

 

You can only do this if YOU KNEW nothing of the case

 

if you do/did then you would commit PERJURY.

 

Just attend your local court and state you wish to do this.

 

 

Also if you knew nothing of the case or did not receive a final steps notice then you could always ask for a means test hearing as well.

 

Now the time you remember this type of offence happening

 

did you actually travel without a ticket at or near the date in question?

 

Did you give your correct address when asked by the inspectors/collectors?

 

We need these details as honestly as you can, because if not the advice you get could be wrong

 

MM

[alexkerrblack]

cheers.

 

the date that i did offend was about 18 months before the date on the letter.

 

it says the offence took place on the date of the letter

 

so it does'nt corroborate with the one time i did offend.

 

if i'm being honest,

when they asked for my details i did give a false address.

perhaps it serves me right,

though the train fare would of only been three quid.

 

would the date on the letter be for when the train company passed my details on to the courts?

 

like i said,

 

the letter says the offence took place on the date on the letter so.

 

.. seems like honesty may well be the best policy.

 

though i justified it in my head by the amount of times the train companies have put us on a bus service when the tracks are down for the same price.

[mikeymack2002]

You have decided to come clean, this is the best thing.

 

 

So now please give the details so we can advise correctly please

 

 

MM

[alexkerrblack]

thast it.

 

it says the fine is for a date which was definatley not the time when i boarded without ticket.

 

could i use my magistrates ref number on the magistrates website to get more info?

[mkb]

Why not post up a copy of the letter you have received then that way everyone will be able to see exactly what has been said ?

 

Delete your personal information & case ref before posting it though.

[dx100uk]

**you can post up images/letters by this method immediately..you don't need 10 posts**

.

set your default scan page size to A4 less than 300DPI [150 will do]

scan the required letters/agreements/sheets - as a picture[jpg] file

don't forget you can use a mobile phone or a digital camera too!!

'

BUT......

ENSURE: remove all pers info inc. barcodes etc

but leave all monetary figures and dates.

.

************************* ************************* *******

{DO NOT USE A BIRO OR PEN OR USE SEE THRU TAPE OR LABELS]

************************* ************************* ***********

.

DO IT IN MSPAINT.EXE or any photo editing program

goto one of the many free online pdf converter websites ...

http://freejpgtopdf.com/

..

if you have multiple scans/pics

put them in a word doc FIRST and convert that to PDF

or http://www.freepdfconvert.com/

or

use www.pdfmerge.com

 

convert existing PC files to PDF [office has an installable print to PDF option]

..

it would be better to upload a multipage pdf if

you have many images too rather than many single pdfs

.

or if you have PDF as an installed printer drive use that

or use word and save as pdf

try and logically name your file so people know what it is.

though dont use full bank names or CAG in the title

i'e Default notice DD-mm-yyyy TSB

.

open a new msg box here

hit go advanced below the msg box

hit manage attachments below that box

hit the add files button on the top right

hit select files, navigate to your file on your pc

hit upload files

...

YOU DONT have to put a link to the attachment in the msg box..just upload it ..job done

.

dx

[dx100uk]

cheers.

 

the date that i did offend was about 18 months before the date on the letter.

 

it says the offence took place on the date of the letter

 

so it does'nt corroborate with the one time i did offend.

 

if i'm being honest,

when they asked for my details i did give a false address.

perhaps it serves me right,

though the train fare would of only been three quid.

 

would the date on the letter be for when the train company passed my details on to the courts?

 

like i said,

 

the letter says the offence took place on the date on the letter so.

 

.. seems like honesty may well be the best policy.

 

though i justified it in my head by the amount of times the train companies have put us on a bus service when the tracks are down for the same price.

 

the letter wil not be the date of the offence

it will be the date you got judged?

[alexkerrblack]

think thats it