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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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A "CCA" is a request for information under the Consumer Credit Act and is, indeed, nothing to do with Data Protection.

 

Do a full SAR and if they default on this or if the information is inaccurate you can require them to correct it under the Data Protection Act (section escapes me for now). If they refuse to correct it then you can report them to the ICO.

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p.s. Write to Experian too... they are processing inaccurate data and regardless of what they tell you it is THEIR responsibility to ensure that data they process is accurate. Require them to correct their records immediately and again if they do not, include them in your complaint to the Information Commissioners Office.

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thanks guys, I have written to Experian several times but all they will do is add a notice of correction to say I disputing the information provided by this creditor but it is of little use against the impact of the default! I seem to be going round in circles because I have done a full SAR to the creditor but not to the dcas they gave the information to. now that the original creditor has removed the offending default as false they say they cannot intervene about the dcas as it is now not their problem, ditto, experian, who also say that the dcas say it is correct but do not appear to be able to prove it in any way, this has been going on for several months.

 

I am not complaining to ICO about non compliance with information but about proving information is correct before passing it on, I have provided all the copies of the correspondence on this matter to ICO but still they argue it is not an issue for them?

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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stonelaughter, thanks, I haved passed the statement from the credit ref agency that 'they are not required to check the accuracy of the information' on to Information Commissioners Office, hopefully they will react.

 

how about 'we make sure monthly updates to existing credit accounts are consistent with information previously sent to us' what on earth does this mean?!

 

and when it is clearly inconsistent and gobbledygook, with no evidence to support it, do they remove it -NO

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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Under the Act, the "person" (i.e. organisation) processing the data is responsible for ensuring the accuracy of the data processed. That would be Experian, then...

 

JonCris - while I agree with what you've said your post provided absolutely nothing of help. How are we supposed to make them better if we simply discourage data subjects from complaining to them??? I think your efforts would be better spent ENCOURAGING people to complain rather than spouting self-indulgent complaints to noone on this board.

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hi Stonelaughter, thanks, I have been on to them again, I think my head is ready to explode with the circles I have been in spun in by FSA, FOS, Information Commissioners Office, Experian, the banks! blah blah, I just cannot get on with my life, can I find this quote on their website and quote it back to them?

 

Under the fourth principle of the Data Protection Act, information must be accurate and up to date. If you feel that your information is not factually accurate (this is information that can be proven to be inaccurate and not an opinion of the person or organisation) you must contact the person or organisation that is holding this information and tell them you believe your information needs updating to be factually accurate under the Data Protection Act. If they fail to do this and your information still remains factually inaccurate you can contact the Information Commissioners Office.

 

think this it, fourth principle!

 

proving it is inaccurate might be difficult, they dont have any agreements but bought a non existent(i.e not taken out by me) ac number and figure and chased me for it.

 

abit frustrating having to do a full sar when the information I have from the CCA request is incorrect i.e. non existent, no agreement to process, no bank details no signatures nothing.

 

however, clearly seems I need to do this asap, many thanks for input folks! :)

'rise like lions after slumber, in unvanquishable number, shake your chains to the earth like dew, which in sleep had fall'n on you, ye are many, they are few.' Percy Byshse Shelly 1819

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