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Hi all - Forum Management/CAGbot were right - comments removed were indeed libellous, I'm really sorry. I was overstressed and panicking myself as when I was writing that post, I was convinced my description was factual.... putting increasing pressure on myself and on people with no serious reason... :( It wasn't factual - I was simply talking with the wrong people. My request is now being dealt with and I'll receive my bills shortly - pls see link:

 

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