The guys on here are the experts so I would take much more credence of what they say than me. my tuppence happens is when the amount is larger the chances that requesting a load of documents stopping their activity could be seen as simply kicking the can down the road.

yes that is what I received.

it isn't the same as my LOC. half the size.

ive had the exact same ones many times so dont worry

the advice my friend has just been given is ignore the PAP as filling it in will just delay them a little but if its loads of money they're gonna come back after getting the reconstituted applications etc.. therefore its just a fishing thing and your handing over any advantage by saying hi here I am. of course that just adds to the confusion but he's heard nothing since last November since the pap other than the same old emails. embarrassing really!

with regards j and p were you receiving generic emails from the company or ones from a specific person?

my good mate had a a case and was convicted in his absence and without knowing. 5 years later he wanted to return as had a good job offer. he got a lawyer in UAE who did a good negotiation and handed over the money in return for the clearance letter and a pardon from the govt so no need for the jail sentence. he is currently in and out of the Uae no issues.

its all very confusing but I reckon it boils down to this. if you have assets they might come and get you. if you dont then they'll chase you but probably do nothing. if you've got a big debt then best off ignoring (even a pap) until a court letter turns up then go to a 'prop' solicitor and turn them over on a technicality.

Wakanda seemed to slowly lose it as opposed those other two who were nuts from the start. where did you use to go for a drink Wakanda?

wakanda...where are ya? personally I need your story! did you have assets etched did they go after you etc.

it gives an insight into how IDR do their business with some nonsense 'expert legal opinion'. they pick and choose bits that suit their purpose and get away with it....when there are equally contradictory laws etc but unless presented they baffle the judges here.

trust me DX if they raise a case against you, you can be stopped, simple as. The systems dont work so straight forward over there....So you need that letter otherwise you can wait 4 days minimum until things get cleared up. having spent 30 odd days for something already sorted, banged up doing just that I can speak from experience!

DX - UAE shares all details with the rest of the GCC and therefore you will get arrested if you pass through any country in the region - nothing to do with Interpol. Clearance wise if you were want to return to work in the UAE you would need to make sure the police and all cases have been properly cleared and you have a legal letter with you when you travel at least the first few times to produce to make sure you're not banged up for 3 days while they work it out lol.

Wakanda, how much was your debt? would love to hear the story and process. There is so little info on the process from people who have been through it. One pal of mine paid 70k instead of 200k and got a royal pardon signed by Sheik Mo as it turned out HSBC had a case and he'd been convicted several years later.

yeah talking to a solicitor over there is only necessary to get a reduced bill and proper legal clearance which you might want if you wanted to return to work there.

the previous two posters who were suggesting I worked for IDR (who joined and disappeared were undoubtedly the same person), had a very similar writing style to the UAE collectors...Not quite sure what they were trying to get say or achieve. Wakanda is right in that IDR will send you letters etc while they assess...which is obvious as they decide who has some assets they can get some money out of. However to say its inevitable is nonsense. I lived in Dubai for 20 years and know about 20 people in the same position and none have had anything more than emails and letters. Large sums involved. If you start talking to them it puts you at the top of the list.

No that is not my advice. I would say ignore as Im in the same boat. Im just sharing the information that others may not have found! ie if in the unlikely event it goes to court (usually if you have assets rather than not) this is what they rely on. nothing more than that!

I downloaded that document this evening from this very site as I was asked to. Hornseys and Ex thread. and uploaded to this thread. can you not read? this is comedy. do your research.

correct but you can only go by experience. Dubai wasn't that big a place back then...everyone knew pretty much knew everyone

what are you on about not in your position. Im in almost the same position. ie hassled by IDR and JandP. no SD yet however. but Im just arming myself with as much info as possible which is surely sensible. apparently not!

lol I got this from this site! Hornseys thread!

this is the 'expert' statement I was referring to. Statement edit.pdf

ok you got me big man. hands up.

ha nice one. please explain why. (you've made 2 posts)

you talking about me?