Well in that case, I think I might as well go after them as I did have to pay and quite a bit to get my cars back as well. I just need to find some sort of template now or somebody else who has managed a success with this.

So, the adjourned case has now had the status changed to charge withdrawn by the DVLA for both vehicles as notified via the post today. The question is, do I now go after the official DVLA clampers or just leave it be?

It was for an unlicensed vehicle on the public highway in this instance and both were uninsured!!

You are quite right Brigadier, but both vehicles were not on a public highway/public road. One was in a private parking space and the other outside my mechanics garage, which I have since discovered is a private road and not owned by the council! Anyway, I prepared my defense, pleaded not guilty and as the DVLA didn't have enough evidence, they have adjourned the case until September. We shall see what happens then I guess.

Hello all, A bit late in the day on this one, but I bought two vehicles on the 4th December last year (one to keep and the other to be repaired and sold on) from the same seller. Both vehicles were moved to a private road (both were not on the road due to engine faults, so could not be driven) with one outside my mechanics garage on that road awaiting repair and the other in a private parking space. Both vehicles came without V5's, so I sent off at the same time a cheque for both with the forms V62 & V890 to SORN them in the post (only way you can do it without the V5's apparently). Both vehicles were then spotted as untaxed and lifted on the 10th December 6 days later. To get them released out of the impound I didn't argue or appeal as that would have just racked up more storage fees each day and in between the owner lcoated the aforementioned V5's amongst his paperwork and posted them onto me, too late then of course!! So, I am in court for having an unsorned vehicle on a public highway this Tuesday morning. I appealed the initial fine stating that the two relevant forms were sent off and this was rejected. Surely there must be a reasonable time to get a SORN in to them. Also, they have never provided proof that they received my documents either or acknowledged them. Is it best to just plead guilty with mitigating circumstances?

Beaten to the answer again, so all I can do is echo the above. It sounds like they have nothing at all and they are now just clutching at straws really. As per other peeps advice, write to them again and wait with baited breath at the next answer they send.

That is so true. I have recently won a case against them and they still can't help themselves with their automated letters. For once I broke the golden rule and rang them, so that I could hurl abuse at them for a change.

That is pure genius indeed. Can this be lifted and also added to the dca bating section to provide much merriment to many many more people. I second blondmusic, keep up the good work!!

I have had that fun with the DVLA over a tax disc, lost in the post. But anyway, back to Moorcrap then, not wanting to hijack the thread!!

Yes, I must say that I sort of enjoyed the fun and frolics that came with Moorcroft. They kept me entertained for months with generic letters, but alas it has been sorted out, ha ha!! Anyway, I have got the DVLA to take on now with the dreaded SORN penalty notice!! Lets see how long this goes on for.

I am not sure what others will say, but I would just send it end of. The more info you give them, the more ammo they gain to knock you down with. So, in other words, you will keep them guessing by not saying anything. Good to hear that you haven't spoken to anybody as I made that mistake and didn't record it either and the woman blatantly lied by telling me that Moorcr#p now owned the debt and that I should just pay up or they would see me in court. If only I had recorded it, doh!!

I prescribe to the go the whole hog theorem and you should follow reallymadwoman's advice. Also, are you communicating solely via letter as I am sure you have already been informed, despite the temptation to use the telephone, don't under any circumstances as that is where Moorcroft will get you the most and will start lying unless you tell them that you are recording the conversation. By doing what reallymadwoman has advised will give you the answers you want and if they haven't sold the debt then insist on dealing with Barclaycard solely again and not the DCA's. If you stick at it, you will win as I have just beaten Moorcr#p but it took 3 months. Now I really feel like ringing them and bating them!!

Hello, Always worth listening to Bazooka boy as he gave me excellent advice and I have just beaten Virgin Media for £62, so that brings me to some of my own advice (having gained this from others). It all depends on whether you want to fight for £29.95 or not as I thought fighting for £62 was worth it and hey presto after 3 months it is sorted. Never speak to the DCA, only communicate via snail mail and from experience, it doesn't matter if it is in dispute or not, they will easily pass the debt sideways to a DCA in order to scare you into paying. I would advise you to take some of Bazooka Boys advice or write a complaint letter to FF'S compaints department (thats assuming they have one) explaining what has happened and that they are at fault and also stipulate that you are giving them 7 days to respond or you will consider the matter as closed. It is very unlikely that they will get in touch within that period of time but they will be back in touch. Send them another letter referring to your previous one saying that you gave them 7 days to respond and that they failed to do so in the time given. If this doesn't work then send one to the head office and the MD of the company outlining your shoddy treatment when it was in fact their procedures that caused the problem in the first instance. You must also complain to the OFT about this as well to keep them on the case.

Dear lord above, this must be one of the longest threads here with some of the best info that money can't buy from LP!! I think the people following this thread must be growing day by day with interest. The swell of support for fretful is also growing, we are all behind you on this one.

A further update for November with some important news!!!! VICTORY, VICTORY and the sweet smell of success is in the air. After yet another complaint letter to the Virgin Media complaints department giving them 7 days to respond or I will consider the matter closed. I received a phone call last night saying that I still owed the money and that was that but Moorcroft had been called off and then this morning the breaktrhough. A jolly nice fellow from the complaints department rang to say that the debt had been wiped clean and that my account balance was now nothing, zilch, nadder and apologised for the way that I had been treated from the off and that Moorcroft were naughty boys and it was a shame that Virgin used them as it gave them a bad name (here here!). The way I had been treated was not the way that a good customer should have been treated. So, the advice given by andy and bazooka boy (much thanks for that by the way) is worth following if you want to get anywhere and the golden rule is definitely definitely never speak to Moorcroft as a) you will lose your rag with them b) they will lie to you unless you tell them that you are recording the conversation and c) just stick to writing to them at all times. Thanks once again for advice given, now how do I put one of those success things under my future posts.