Sorry for some reason i do not have the right to start my own thread? Is this because i have to pay to become a full member? Any way my beef is with the Martin and Co letting agent which were fantastic until check out after 2yrs tenancy. Then they asked for over £600 to be taken from the deposit! I kid you not £200 for garden, because grass was cut BUT not freshly cut?! Then charged for carpets to be cleaned professionally as the damp made them shaded!!(Damp is actually LL problem and he was informed and took care of the damp-just not the carpet damage) Then i tols them to take a jump they came down to £350 ! Charging £80 for a single oven clean when i have 3 quotes for around £45 yet they insist on using their overinflated own contractors. The list goes on- i have offered £150 yet they insist on their quote and cannot breakdown the £150 for cleaning- just cleaning they say. Absurd The question is do i go ADR with the Deposit scheme or just sue their ass for being vexatious!!? Can i get 8% interest from ADR which will take 2 months? Nothing has changed with deposits , LL and agents still use it too redecorate the house to better it. Shocking.

Maybe the property ombudsman?

Hi Papasmurf I won. Settled with a CA. Job done- no more shoddy job and stress. Realised i need to do something more worthwhile in life then feeding a multinational machine that feeds the shareholders and displays pseudo ethical and moral outlooks. So started own charity up- if anyone wants to help let me know- you can even shop online as normal and a sum will be donated. Thanks to all on here for their positive and negative points- it helps to bounce things around. As humans it is our duty to see what's wrong and to say what's wrong- sitting on the fence only gives you splinters:)

Hi Bunty in my experience you are wrong. The panel consists of the judge a person for employers and a person for employees. So technically 33% of the panel are on your side to begin with. You do however need to read up on tribunals and visit a few before you start. Provided you have only the truth to tell when being cross examined then this will show through to the panel- we all know consciously or subconsciously most of the time when people lie- the panel will pick up on this. Finally the unravelling is in the detail- liars can generalise but struggle to recall detail(because it never happened) one or two may be that good but you are likely to come across them in the Bourne Identity. Certainly if you "order to attend" two people + who have to remember lies and the detail, then they will struggle to corroborate their story. Unfortunately the tribunal system is turning into another playing field for legal people when it should be left more informally for the people as was the intention. My view on employers is that they should be more careful and mindful how they behave, let's face it the unethical and immoral prime mortgages that crashed the entire world economy is because of greedy employers! I left uni in 2002/3 and you could get a mortgage broker to give you 100% mortgage up to £250k-with or without a job! Also like most people on here when we have issues at work-which happen- you discuss them and resolve them normally, sometimes this doesn't happen and you feel wronged, then the only way that employers will listen to what is normally an ethical and moral issue is by threatening their financial issues. Which is sad- "ethical and corporate governance" exists in writing only and rarely if ever actioned by corporations--- very much like their own written policies and procedures. I wish you luck and don't be afraid to ask for guidance on protocol and procedure- let us know how it went:) I am not legally qualified, i simply try and work on common sense, logic and reasoning and if this is incompatible with the law then, "the law is an ass"

Papasmurf thankyou for your sound advice that was logical and informative without being derogatory and defeatist. I have a thick skin and dealing with these kind of people(the cheetahs who never change their spots) it's just a matter of time before they behave with little care for anyone else but themselves. I did find 7 lawyers who were willing to take on my case out of 7 approached! To all others who are heading towards tribunal, it would be wise to remember and remind the Tribunals that it is the peoples court, not an exclusive venue for lawyers thereforthing and henceforthing! A lot has to be said for sitting up on a stand sworn in and cross examined whilst having your say, because if you have the truth, then when you order your boss to attend who has to face the same grilling, they have to remember all the lies. That simply wins the tribunal, if they believe you on the balance of probabilities then you will win. It doesn't have to be beyond a reasonable doubt and have confessions and smoking guns--like HR want in grievance procedures:) lol If you have been on the receiving end of an injustice then put it right, go to tribunal and have your say let the world know all about it. It is free if you represent yourself and whilst some people may say costs will be awarded against you-- fiddlesticks- if the tribunal believe there is no case to answer then they should throw it out before going forward or pay the costs themselves!

I know this thread is fairly old now but could some of the possibilities be to sue for personal injury as a psychological injury is still an injury, Post traumatic stress etc. Also could one sue for harrasment- the company and individuals whose actions are seen to be harrassing. Although i do understand that these paths would mean money to pay for lawyers- unless the harrasment was complained to the police as criminal? Just trying to think around the box.

Hey Honeybee Long time. I always have problems:) Just checking to see if there are any happy endings. Perhaps the way forward is too ensure household insurance etc include legal protection. Jimmy

What happened. Surely if a RSI is from employers negligence, can you not sue them? I know you'd rather keep your job but really after the way they behave? Could the amount you win from suing them(provided you could and would win) be enough to tide you over until you find a better job where you are treated as a human? Any lawyers out there who know how much could be claimed for neck/shoulder/arm RSI symptoms? Is it a set amount or considers how long you are out of work? anyone?

I had an old debt arise, it was statute barred and i finally flipped, it was only about £550 . So i wrote them an email Dear Sir/Madam I am in receipt of your letter dated 05/03/2010. I have spoken with one of your operators by telephone months ago as i have no idea what this alleged debt is for. Your operator was to send me details, such as is it a credit card/overdraft etc and details of when and how this debt incurred and the breakdown of it. Too date i have had nothing! This email is too notify you that i believe in the absence of any proof of this debt, which if i remember correctly your operator said was from 2001!(which is well beyond the statute of limitations 1980) then i assume this is a fraudulent effort to extract money from me. If you have details of the above debt as i requested then be kind enough to send me copies, i.e breakdown of debt, where the money was spent(if credit card) my CCA agreement(original/or certified copy of the original). If you cannot and i keep receiving these annoying bullying letters which do cause stress for me and my family then i will take a more robust approach with the trading standards and OFT,IC and the consumer credit licensing company as well as formal complaints to the police. I deem this as having been received by you unless my mail client says otherwise and i give you 14days to respond, either by email or letter with the confirmation that you have written off and closed this account that has been set up in my name. Any other letters of harrassment other than your reply will be copied and used as evidence, a charge will be made against you for my time and stress of £500 per letter and a copy of the letter and my invoice will be forwarded on to the directors of your company incurring further charges. Regards And guess what they responded and apologised, clearing the debt off:) Honestly i think the debt was from 10 years ago from an overdraft of £30.

Hey Honey Bee It is worse then before. The grievance has put my head above the parapet and they are taking pot shots which is fine. Until meeting with HR when they lied about a few things about my work. Big no no as i can see they are setting me up to fire me ont he basis my work rate is not good enough. However i have the docs and proof to show they lied and in fact my Work is still exceptionally spiffingly fantastic as always. So have meeting tomorrow with HR to show docs and i guess demand an apology. Wish i could insist they are fired for lying. I'll tell you and anyone else out there reading, if you have a valid claim for a tribunal then do it, go through the grievance process as per normal, maybe there will be a result...more than likely not. Then agree to disagree to their findings and go straight to tribunal, don't do what i'm doing, going in to work to be victimised and harrassed daily this is more stressful then preparing for a tribunal. Anyway will keep up the righteous fight to be sure to be sure.

So they are ramping up the gears, not allowing me to have training but other people can, moved desks to other end of department. Trying to pick holes in my work and lying about my work rate. I have requested a reduction in workload some 8months ago which has not been actioned and in fact got added too soon after my appeal was finished. Surprise surprise:) Changeed my contracted hours without consultation, and other individually minor issues which all add up. My question is can i make a formal complaint under victimisation and harrassment laws as the ongoings have been extremely stressful and the ongoing excess workload has caused immense mental stress and physical injury to the neck,shoulder and wrist. Is this a breach of the Health and Safety Act and leaves my company liable for prosecution as well as the individual that is harrassing and victimising me for a civil personal injury claim?? Any other fire power will be helpful.

HB how are you sweety. I'm growing in strength although often get that feeling that it is me and not every one else;) Keep up the good work, just read the flattery you got in the UKPC thread.

I'm not a fan of CRB checks because it is bureaucracy gone wild. If i was in the above innocent situation everyone and their dogs puppies would know about the injustice. I was most perturbed when my Child minding wife had to have a CRB check and so did i as i'd be another adult living in the same house.At the time having spent a few years and still in the Mets finest. I was most perturbed that i HAD to have this CRB check(fair enough i didn't have to pay for it so i never kicked up a fuss) I think two lady constables were taken to court for "child minding" without a CRB check! That wacky council in North London Herts, tried to ban any mums and dads who weren't CRB checked to enter into the public/council play area! I tell you bureaucracy gone mad, knee jerk reactions that makes all of us who work with kids, want to work with kids, GUILTY until proven otherwise. This really is sad in a society that assumes guilt rather than innocence. A society where effectively i can accuse my neighbour/teacher of my child etc of being a sex pest/rapist etc and they will be part burned. Have we not regressed some few hundred years?? Or am i just not getting it??Is it me? Yes i know if something happened to my child or loved one i wouldn't be happy but i put things into perspective, we hear about the paedophiles and tragic murders by Ian Huntley, the kidnapping of kids etc which are all sensationalised in the media so it seems we are surrounded by sex fiends. In reality i think i have more of a chance to win the lottery twice in a row then it too happen to my kid/loved ones(touch wood). And whilst i have gone completely off topic, i'm not a fan of the DNA database. Yes if there is a person who

This annoys me intensely! Logic and common sense seem to be for the French only. Clearly if the person in question is innocent as he was in a pub with many witnesses and CCTV as described. Can you not make a formal complaint to IPCC, can you not sue the Police for wrongful arrest(going rate of compensation is around£1000/hour of liberty lost.) I understand SarEl "but that is irrelevant since the information is correct - he was charged" However he was incorrectly charged? You cannot go around destroying peoples entire lives on hearsay evidence. The malicious accusation from the person and the police misactions are both at fault in my view and both should be rigorously sued! I am in favour of innocent until proved otherwise, it makes me wonder how he came to be charged before interviewed and it all cleared up with the evidence gathered? I also agree the law is not fair, it does get fairer though the bigger your wallet and the better and more lawyers you can hire.

I have tried the ladders and not very impressed at all. I guess the litmus test is why aren't the big recruitment agencies doing this, the likes of Adecco,Manpower,Hays etc. The ladders get paid by both sides i assume and that's how they make the money, i never went as far as getting a job with them so don't know if they charge a finders fee as well. My opinion is you don't need to pay to find a job over 50k.I assume that the ladders just search engine all the over 50k jobs and arrange on their website? If like most recruitment type agencies they have 100 jobs advertised then about 60 of those would be taken already. Another one i avoided is the international job seekers one, they do the same but don't help with visas etc, just put your cv forward