Hi, the first point to note is that a zero contract means he is probably a WORKER and not an employee. Different rights apply. I would actually have gone to small claims court not an ET, for speed. My thoughts below in caps - note I am not a lawyer. At 18 - I would go for money and not a crusade so I take a pragmatic approach. If you suspect proper right to work checks have not been done you can also report here, depending on your opinion on immigration rights. /assets/static/govuk-opengraph-image-dade2dad5775023b0568381c4c074b86318194edb36d3d68df721eea7deeac4b.png Report an immigration or border crime - GOV.UK WWW.GOV.UK Report someone who you think may be living or working in the UK illegally, employing someone illegally 1) Is he dismissed at the point he is blocked from WhatsApp or when they threaten him with violence? Employer is arguing not dismissed as they never told him he is dismissed so they claim he is still employed or in the alternative he is dismissed due to conduct (contacting other employees and complaining about not being paid his wages). I WOULD SAY HE IS NOT DISMISSED UNTIL HE HAS A LEAVER'S LETTER IN HIS HAND. ZERO HOURS HAS NO OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE WORK. SO STILL ON CONTRACT I'D SAY. 2) Is there anything else he can claim in his schedule of loss (above) or should remove?? JUST PAY AND HOLIDAY PAY 3) Even though employer admitted owed wages and holiday pay in preliminary hearing and said that they would pay up promptly, they are now saying to the claimant that they will pay him this if he signs a settlement agreement. Is there any way to force them to pay as they already admitted owing him this money and that they would pay it. NO. A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS IN RETURN FOR KEEPING HIS MOUTH SHUT. I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO PAY HIM MORE TO DO THAT. SO ASK FOR HALF THE WAGES AGAIN, SAY. THEY SHOULD ALSO PAY FOR A LAWYER TO LOOK IT OVER FOR HIM (NOT NEGOTIATE IT! JUST EXPLAIN IT). IF A SA IS ON THE TABLE I USUALLY ADVISE TO TAKE IT TO GET THE THING DONE WITH! FASTER THAN COURT, LESS EMOTIONAL. 4) I noticed recently that the directors opened a new company. If the old one was called Pizza Hut Ltd (as an example), the new one is called Pizza Hut (Cambridge) Ltd. Do you think they could shut down the old one and get rid of the ET case and not pay up? If so is there anything I can such as inform the ET/court/companies house about the court case so that they can't wind up the company to get out of paying up owed wages? THAT'S A WHOLE WORLD OF DRAWN OUT PAIN FOR NO REWARD. THE SYSTEM IS NOT WELL DESIGNED. TAKE THE CASH, LEAVE THE HIGH GROUND TO PEOPLE WITH ALL THE TIME AND MONEY IN THE WORLD.

and they didnt even paint the box! its on railway land too so byelaws over ride as well. dx

Thank you. Will reply to the procedures email with the information asked.

Sorry, I did not mean to sound argumentative/confrontational. Please accept my apologies.

@Emmzzi, would it be worth sending an SAR to get hold of the contract and any other missing information? HB

As mentioned before, I had 2 poorly mates in the car with me that needed food/water. One was particularly poorly - would it help my case if either of them were also witness? It is true to say I was more focused on getting in and parked as this person was likely to vomit, that I wasn't exactly looking for parking signs! But I'm not sure if that would go in my favour or against me.

Andy

Date of service is the 17th July as per the court stamp but be careful because if you read the claimants particulars they are claiming sec69 interest from 12th May as per when the claim was printed (their words) ? I'm not sure why the delay from that date to date of issue over 2 months ? Anyway date of service is 17th July therefore you have 19 days to AOS and a further 14 days to submit a defence (33 days in total) AOS Friday 4th AUG deadline for submitting. Defence Friday 18th Deadline for submitting. Andy

Tagging @Emmzzi

What you say about security isn't our experience here, I have to say. I don't think the police will get involved but you have to stop this now. If you're caught again, it's quite possible the police will be involved. As we've said, talk to your GP about this and figure out why you've been stealing. If you're tempted again, remember how you're feeling now and don't do it. HB

Okay. Send it. I'm rather worried because it is clear that you haven't done the reading that you need to do in order to be confident about the process and to give yourself the best chance of winning. If you don't have the time – then you need to find time. Whatever the situation, you are making very basic errors especially given the fact that you have been on this forum on and off since 2006. Once you sent the letter of claim you are committed to the 14 day deadline and on day 15 you will click of the claim. Do the reading and start preparing.

As dx has said you don’t need to come up with any reason just complete the VT You must use post for communication with these idiots

CAG have an 85% success rate helping motorists win court cases against these vermin. Yep. Someone who will remain nameless with, er, too much time on his hands, got annoyed a few months back and totted up the results of court hearings between Caggers and VCS during the previous two years. The win rate was 85%.