Civil Enforcement Ltd (again!)

[demon_x_slash]

Great to hear - I hope your mum is relieved, and is now reassured that not all demands for money are legal

[Tictactoe]

Thanks

 

Mum is really pleased.

It's also made me more confident to fight these crooks and I hope that everyone who receives an unlawful PCN fights back too.

[Rob S]

Great result Tictactoe!!!

 

It just shows as long as you stick to your guns with these charletans you will get the result you deserve. Great news!

[Tictactoe]

Yeah!

 

Can't believe the result myself. Couldn't have done it without you guys!!!

[wrinx]

Well done! Gives me (more) hope

 

wrinx

[Tictactoe]

Thanks Wrinx

 

Don't give them a penny! They are trying to bully you. There is safety in numbers. Good luck!

[wrinx]

Thanks ....I hate bullying, be assured I'll be fighting all the way

 

wrinx

[chococat]

Im just ignoring the bunch of clowns.

[emmawink]

Hi I'm wondering if any one can offer any advice at all. I recently received a 'parking charge civil enforcement notice' from Civil Enforcement Limited for parking in what has always been a free precinct car park in Ashton in Makerfield, Wigan...clearly not any longer!!!. The letter asks me to pay £170,reduced to £85 if paid within 14 days....as per the terms and conditions displayed in the car park. I revisited this car park the other day and the signs say the fines are £150 and £75 if staying over 2 1/2 hrs completely different to my notice!!...

....also after speaking with several shop owners on the precinct I've been advised that they park all day by mutual agreement(no payment made) and 1 kind chap said the signs had recently been changed...which adds up to why my 'fine' is a higher amount.

I've been reading the posts on here about these leaches and am about to draft a first letter as is recommended above...any advice would be gratefully received

many thanks

Emma

[Rob S]

Emma, there is plenty of advice in this thread and the forum. Just read it, follow it and write the letter and tell these charletans to shove it!!

[trixter444]

Emma, my mum was done in the same car park a couple of months ago, i followed the advice on here (wrote letter on behalf of mum saying quite willing to go further if they could prove it was my mum driving!) and got response saying they were not going any further with it! stick to your guns and dont give up:)

 

Trixter

[Tictactoe]

Hi Emma

My mum received a PCN from these crooks. I got some good advice and support from this site. After appealing for the second time the PCN was cancelled. Just refuse to pay and ask them

[Tictactoe]

Sorry Emma - pressed the wrong button - I'll finish what I was saying...

Just ask them what legislation allows them to make the charge?

Good luck !!!

[emmawink]

Thanks for all your replies and support:) its just good to know that others have challenged these crooks and won!!

1st letter sent today so will see what the resonse is...(expecting something along lines of chococats letter)

will keep you posted and thanks again everyone:cool:

Emma

[wrinx]

I've twice requested proof (ANPC photo) which has not been forthcoming. Expecting this, the second letter said that I would treat the demands as without substance and ignore any further communication....which I intent to do

 

They can take me to small claims for all I care, they haven't helped their case demanding money with no reason except their obviously dubious letters.

 

Finally, shot themselves in the foot by expecting a tenner for the proof, who the hell is going to pay to incriminate themselves?

 

Good luck to all....and thanks again to this forum for your help!

 

wrinx

[chococat]

I've not heard anything in over a month now since writing once informing them to seek the driver not the keeper. I'd rather pay court costs than send these muppets a cheque, and i still havent bothered replying to their second demand.

 

As people are saying here, let them chase, i'm not going to any trouble for them, i don't even want a note of cancellation. I just don't care about them enough, the matter is over for me.

 

Good look Emma, keep that will power up and don't send money in a moment of weakness.

[Lilo72]

*REMOVED*

[wrinx]

Love your letter...are you in the legal profession

 

From my dealings with them and reading others experiences on here I'd just ignore them.

 

My second letter just said that if they didn't provide proof (they want £10 for a photo) I would treat their demand as being with menaces and ignore it.

 

Have heard nothing since which in my book means we're RIGHT to be ignoring these charlatans!

 

wrinx

[Lilo72]

*removed*

[wrinx]

Well...just received my "final reminder"

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/parking-traffic-wardens/103625-civil-enforcement-ltd-again.html#post982019

 

wrinx

[chococat]

I've just received my "Final" reminder today also. They must send them out in batches! Maybe they can only afford the stationary costs when every 1 in a hundred people actually pay them.

 

I'm slightly concerned about bailiffs knocking at my door, but i imagine it's all bluff as it has no legal grounding whatsoever (obviously). I can't imagine them paying £250 (correct?) just to try and recover £90 from little old me.

[wrinx]

Yes, I was under the impression this was a small claims court matter, not county court...but then I'm probably wrong

 

Still not getting the money...!

 

wrinx

[Bernie_the_Bolt]

Yes, I was under the impression this was a small claims court matter, not county court...but then I'm probably wrong

 

Still not getting the money...!

 

wrinx

 

It's the small claims procedure in the county court.

The term "small claims court" is a misnomer.

[chococat]

So are these people going to actually issue me with a summons? I was under the impression that they didn't bother.

[Bernie_the_Bolt]

So are these people going to actually issue me with a summons? I was under the impression that they didn't bother.

 

Don't have a clue. What you absolutely must not do is to let any bailiff or anyone purporting to be a bailiff into your house unless and untill a court has given judgment against you which you have failed to meet and futher that the court has issued a warrant of execution.

 

I'm not saying that that is where it will go of course, what I am saying is that if you let a bailiff into your home you lose certain rights.

 

Prior to that, if a bailiff or person purporting to be a bailiff attempts to force their way past you into your home call 999 immediately and report an intruder who is attempting to or has gained entry by assault.