Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
        • Like
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
        • Like
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like

Flight cancelled by Airline. Not allowing rebooking to new dates.


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 1029 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

Had a flight booked via BA but operated by their partner Finnair which was cancelled by them in December 2020. Originally I was told I could leave it pending and call back to rebook when I knew the new dates or claim a refund. Since the flights for Dec 21 were not released then I decided to call back later. When I called back a couple of months back they said my ticket was only valid till September 21 as I bought the ticket in September 20 and refused to rebook me. 

 

This is a trip to Lapland and it hardly makes any sense to go before September. It needs to be done around Christmas as it was a winter activity holiday. Spoke to a few people about this and they advised that I take BA to court under EU261 Article 8 Schedule C which says - re-routing, under comparable transport conditions, to their final destination at a later date at the passenger’s convenience. According to EU261 they can't force their own ticket rules onto you as the EU261 supersedes it. 

 

Quote

Article 8 – Right to Rerouting

4

1. Where reference is made to this Article, passengers shall be offered the
choice between:
(a) - reimbursement within seven days, by the means provided for in
Article 7(3), of the full cost of the ticket at the price at which it was
bought, for the part or parts already made if the flight is no longer
serving any purpose in relation to the passenger’s original travel
plan...
(b) re-routing, under comparable transport conditions, to their final
destination and at the earliest opportunity; or
(c) re-routing, under comparable transport conditions, to their final
destination at a later date at the passenger’s convenience, subject to
availability of seats.

 

 

The airline is saying I can have a refund but its too late to book the new flights now as they are £1,000pp.

 

Took them to MCOL after booking new tickets and they have replied that it was Finnair who was the operating carrier and that BA are not responsible under Article 8. So I guess I need to go after Finnair but I was reading a thread on here about Ryanair where the OP couldn't take them to the UK court and had to go to Irish court?

 

Finnair says they can't do anything as its a BA ticket and they can't reissue it which they are right about. BA needs to do this after talking with Finnair. 

 

What do I do for my case now? 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

I took BA to MCOL and they replied to the court. Basically claiming that they weren’t the operating carrier and their terms state tickets only valid for a year which I accepted when I booked ticket. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes. They are saying the following - 

"The rebooked flights were subsequently cancelled due to the ongoing restrictions and travel advice on COVID-19."

 

But that doesn't mean they don't have to rebook me. Even if they cancelled due to border restrictions they need to give me the options as per EC261. 

 

The claim forms and defence have personal information on there which I would rather not put online. Would be grateful if you can assist without those? I can supply any information that you need. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Any chance you can help without that as I don't feel too comfortable putting up the personal case details. 

 

Basically they are claiming they aren't the operating carrier. 

 

1. Court has allowed me to add Finnair to the claim as a joint defendant. Can I take them to MCOL though considering they are a Finnish company? 

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok I will redact the information and upload. It's legal to upload court documents and ask for advice? I always assumed that was private court information which shouldn't be shared online? 

Edited by axil23
  • Thanks 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...