Beware AUTO VELOCITA LIMITED John Michael Garbett, Tim Garbett used cars **Solved**

[ellli]

I cannot believe that the Police will not take action against a second hand car seller who has

fraudulently taken our money,

promised to deliver the car and didn’t..

 

endless lies, phone calls and texts from him, blatantly out to deceive.

A refund promised many times but nothing back.

 

.our car still advertised for sale on different sites along with 30 others..

such a nasty person as the car was for my severely disabled paraplegic husband who is in poor health and needed the car..

 

no money and no car..

going to try to take him to court but looks as if his company has asked for receivership.

 

.we feel such mugs and are devastated as we have lost a lot of money to this creature..

 

advice welcome as we don’t think we will see a penny back... thank u all

[ellli]

I know what your going to say..cash, a lot..he seemed so nice and concerned for my husband which makes it worse..

 

they are a company called Auto-Velocita and are advertising on eBay, gumtree and others.

He spent all day yesterday saying he was coming with the car, so cruel..we have never bought off trade before and we trusted him..

 

he has the last laugh with our money and won’t refund us..

how can they get away with it as it’s fraud , he’s making a lot of money from doing this..

it will have to go to court but we are not holding out much hope.

 

.thanks for your support 

[ellli]

Clever..! yes that’s them..how did you do that?? I don’t know anything about business..I think it’s the man’s son who has ripped us off..all expensive cars aren’t they..I have complained to eBay who said they would remove ‘our’ car off the listing but they haven’t..yes he’s got our money but what the hell can mss as me a person do that to someone vulnerable..I don’t get it! Thzz as no’s for reading my moans..

[ellli]

https://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/2007-volkswagen-golf-2.0t-gti-edition-30-5dr-dsg-hatchback-petrol-automatic/1392138408

hey thanks for your advice.. yes he certainly is dishonest, we have recorded conversations and texts to prove, he has never denied that he has had our money and we paid cash I’m afraid..no fool like an old fool..he was out to deceive from the start, he knew it was the perfect car for my husband to transfer into..he has been really poorly for 6 months now and was so happy to have found the perfect car for him that our common sense went with our money..I will certainly try our MP and a letter to the Police though they have said it’s civil as we made a contract..

 

[ellli]

https://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/2007-volkswagen-golf-2.0t-gti-edition-30-5dr-dsg-hatchback-petrol-automatic/1392138408

 

hey thanks for your advice.. yes he certainly is dishonest, we have recorded conversations and texts to prove, he has never denied that he has had our money and we paid cash I’m afraid..no fool like an old fool..

 

he was out to deceive from the start, he knew it was the perfect car for my husband to transfer into..he has been really poorly for 6 months now and was so happy to have found the perfect car for him that our common sense went with our money..I will certainly try our MP and a letter to the Police though they have said it’s civil as we made a contract..

 

 

Yes I can see where you are coming from..he caught us at a particular bad time and vulnerable since my husband has not been well and I’ve been caring for him, it was to cheer him up..how ironic..I thinks it’s totally criminal and disgraceful..

 

I will certainly try what you have suggested ..the name of the seller is Tim Garbett do maybe he is the son of the Garbett named on the paperwork asking for receivership..please everyone else don’t fall for the same con..

[ellli]

oh sorry I’m new to forums! Please keep advising

 

we have been in communication with him for over 2 weeks

 

we went Tuesday 13th April just gone and bought the car. Tim promised delivery Wednesday 14th and that’s the story to date..

 

we are gutted as only ever see the good in people..

 

thank you for your imput

[ellli]

Yes we arranged a viewing of 3 cars at his address on Hagley Road and my husband had a test drive.

 

Tim would not let us take the car as he wanted to service it before delivery the next day

 

The car's not coming, he said he was on his way all day yesterday and it was one excuse after another, on his way back from Nottingham then 6 hours later he was still there

 

Then he promised to refund us last night countless times but nothing and passing the phone around to someone else.

 

Im afraid he is a fraudster? no question about it I’m afraid to say, I wish it was not the case

 

I never thought we would ever fall for anything like this do s as warning to all

 

 

[ellli]

Yes I will do and thank you..

 

I have tried to contact Stourbridge Police so expecting a call back, worth a go..Tim is known to them for other things by what we have found

 

and I will try our MP also

 

brilliant advice..

[ellli]

Ah thank you..crikey this lot have been up to all sorts, cruel people..

 

I’ve reported it to Action Fraud and a report has gone so hopefully they will bring a case? It’s certainly fraud..

 

 

[ellli]

I know, you couldn’t make it up..we shouldn’t have fallen for his scam though but people do..

 

Only hope it seems if Action Fraud will take it on as they can get the Police involved then, fraud is supposed to be a serious crime..

[ellli]

I know, it seems so unreal but it is what has happened.

 

The seller has now called my son to say he is going to deliver the car on Monday 14th April after receiving a email I sent him yesterday after advice from the CAB

 

So no I don’t understand..he told us Wednesday that he would be delivering it on that day but didn’t and did not refund when he said he would..

 

Of course I want him to come and finally get this resolved but that remains to be seen I guess

 

Thank you all for your comments, I am new to forums as you may have guessed.

 

 

 

 

[ellli]

Oh heck, sorry..my mistake 

 

He has now promised Monday 19th April..he was supposed to deliver it Wednesday 14th just gone..

 

He will not let me pick it up..I wouldn’t expect a seller to deliver a car usually? 
 

We will have to see, stay tuned..it would be great but I’m sceptical 

[ellli]

ok I will do that..

 

all we have is the message he sent on his iCloud mail on his iPhone to say he received payment in full with the registration number

 

the only description we have is the advert itself which is still on numerous sites

 

funny tho in the email he sent me he said that he has received a deposit..! well no he had all the full amount in cash which he insisted on as that was the way he traded..

 

I pointed this out to him in my reply so awaiting a response as he had already acknowledged full payment in texts and in our phone recordings..

 

Dont know what he is playing at..

 

 

[ellli]

I agree, it was very stupid

 

it was a feel good day at the time as my husband felt better and it was only the second time he has been out of the bungalow for 6 months after being so ill

 

and the seller was so attentive all our common sense disappeared..I don’t think he will deliver the car and it will be another excuse

 

there is no way we will get our money back I don’t think, but there’s a lot more people worse off than us, that’s what keeps me going

 

thank you all for your advice, I really mean that

[ellli]

Hi all..no it did not come unfortunately. The ‘seller’ Tim emailed me with the date of delivery then he rang my son yesterday asking how we all are!! He then said we would be last on the list for delivery yesterday..

 

My husband called him and Tim told him to ‘stop stressing’!! The car was ready to be delivered and would be with us. We offered again to collect then he said it was in a lock up and couldn’t get to it..!! Eh???

 

Then he called my son at 6pm yesterday to say he could not come and he would deliver it today(Tuesday 20th) as no other jobs on and 100% guarantee..!!

We know it’s not coming..

 

I told my husband not to call him anymore as it’s making him feel really poorly which is not helping..

 

Oh dear we have been scammed..We found 2 reviews for Tim and his company from 2015 and one said he took his money and never received the car and the other said he ripped him off and that person had started court proceedings..

 

 

[ellli]

Hi..

He is selling all his cars on eBay, gumtree and motors. We went to his address as advertised on the sites which is where he is ‘trading’ from and where he asks you to go to view. So it was off these sites that we saw his adverts.

 

His ‘receipt’ he sent us includes the reg number and I suppose it is proof that it is from him as his iCloud mail.

 

The as for ‘our’ car is still live, he has not removed it so it is still for sale..it shows the reg plate and it corresponds to the one he wrote on his ‘receipt’ to me.

 

Hoping Action Fraud may take action  either against the Company or Tim himself? We know our chances of getting the money back are nil..surely it is fraud and he should be done??

 

Not a good start to the year..

 

 

 

 

[ellli]

Hey thanks for your help and have contacted the police again..

 

They have changed their minds and now say because he has been stinging us along with false promises that they will do something..

 

Tim again called my son earlier and again has said that he will be delivering the car today!! We have informed the police and they have advised that we must give him until the end of today and if it still has not arrived then they will begin to take action as he is purposely out to deceive..

 

It will either be deception by fraud or theft..

 

He still has lots of cars for sale and he told us that he is expecting another 20 as he imports them, he has money so why feel the need to act in such a cruel way..

 

I will keep you posted and your help has been invaluable...

[ellli]

I’ve been given a number that ends with a c..I didn’t get her name but she went and asked her Supervisor, the calls are recorded and she definitely said we had a case but to give him a last chance for today and see if is good to his word..then to call him and tell him that we can now report him to the police..

 

Because he has made so many promises to deliver and has not refunded on request then they will take action this time as he is out to deceive..

 

Funny today that our car has disappeared from his adverts so it’s gone somewhere..could he have sold it again?? but it wasn’t his to sell..and the police have stated that..

 

the plot thickens..a very expensive lesson we have learned from all this and how not to buy a car!

 

I will keep you all posted and so many thanks..

 

 

[ellli]

Ok certainly will do..

 

it’s a waiting game at the moment for Tim to call to say he’s coming..nothing so far

 

we are keeping an eye now on the tax on the car to see if it gets taxed today, if it goes it is definitely in the hands of another buyer..

 

will keep you all posted..

 

thank you all sooo much

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ellli]

update..

 

well I don’t know what’s going on..

 

Tim promised to deliver our car tonight, txt us at 20.00 to say he was on his way..

 

Then he’s just txt to say he’s not well and won’t be coming tonight..says he’s coming tomorrow!! and he has transferred £4000 into our account to show that he’s not trying to con us..?

 

ive called him and he has apologised and  I said that we should call it a day, forget the sale and requested the rest of the money back..

 

Tim has agreed, said that he cannot transfer anymore money tonight and would do tomorrow..

 

So will have to see, we are totally confused..is he up to something??

 

help...

 

 

[ellli]

Yea we paid cash but he has never declined that we have paid the full amount..so really do not understand

 

We keep offering to collect the car since he seems to be struggling to deliver it but he wont let us..

 

We are trusting people and it is a shame that this has happened 

 

also he has never blocked our calls so not the usual goings on which can happen.. you couldn’t make it up!!

 

Hey all thanks for all your comments and hope no one else falls for anything similar..very odd!!

[ellli]

I certainly will do, all the way..

 

don’t know way to expect next tho so will need all your imput..

 

[ellli]

Hi..

 

you are right..

 

Our car was supposed to be delivered by last night, didn’t come..then we received a txt saying £4000 in our account..and yes it was deposited..

 

I called him and he agreed to refund the remaining £7650 to us by this morning so waiting now to see..??? 
Very odd..

 

 

[ellli]

yes we have learned a lot, it has been a hard lesson and stressful 

 

have not heard anything yet this morning so will wait until the morning has passed then get back in touch with Tim for a final time I think..then pass it on to the Police..

 

just don’t get it, he has plenty of cars for sale and much higher value than this one. Apart from last Wednesday night he has always answered our calls, why not just block us?? he has always given us false hope..

 

what a carry on..

 

will keep you all posted and many thanks again for your kind advice and support, it means a lot..

 

 

 

 

[ellli]

Just a thought..

 

the £4 K he sent last night was a ‘act of faith’ from his point of view to show us that he is not being fraudulent..!! So it’s not part of a refund..he told my son that he would deliver the car this morning when he sent that money over..

 

so very confused..if he brought the car he would have the £4 K back straight away.. has anyone ever seen a situation like this before..?