Euro Car Parks ANPR PCN - Wellington Street Stockport

[ericsbrother]

well,

the multiple signs do them no favours at all.

 

In essence you are invited to park for £1.50 without strings according to the most prominent sign,

others refer to terms that arent there so dont count ( the pay by phone sign)

others refer to other signs for terms

so in essence are an invitation to treat and not contractual and

 

these signs do not say dont park if you wont agree to the small print located elsewhere so you can consider and then decide not to accept and there is nothing that says you have to pay a penalty for not accepting the small print.

 

The lack of suitable methods to pay but not saying you must pay before parking again means that this is not an offer that is binding.

 

Displaying a ticket is pointless as it is all ANPR linked and you wouldnt get a ticket to display if you paid online or by phone so it is nonsense.

Having one of the main terms of parking self defeating then means that the others carry little weight either.

they also admit that they calculate entry and exit times rather than actual time that the vehicle was parked.

 

Now most of the time this is a trivial point but what if you had trouble paying by phone or you had to queue to exit the car park? that is not time you are under any contractual obligations

so they cnat charge you but state that they will.

 

Likewise enter the car park,

read the signage,

decide you dont want to be bound by it and leave.

Will they charge you?

They have signed up to a code that says they wont.

 

Lastly the NTK says that the permit/ticket didnt cover the date and time of parking.

 

Well, where on their list of terms that attract a breach of contract charge of £100 is that specifically mentioned?

You cant breach a condition that doesnt exist.

Edited February 2, 2018 by dx100uk
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[ericsbrother]

first choice:

ignore them and wait and see what they do,

you can always tell them they are wrong and to sod off at some point in the future.

 

second choice: tell them they are wrong now but risk showing your hand and thus making them think that a rebuttal of your statements will make you likely to then pay up.

 

The former costs them more money as they will invariable pay a dca to write scary letters,

the latter speeds thing up slightly but really wont get them to drop the matter as they know they dont have a decent case to claim for you but then they dont have a case to claim from anyone and that is how they make a living.

 

We still have a few more tools in our box, they dont

[ericsbrother]

no-one here would ever suggest that you pay up a lesser amount when you owe nothing. You havent read what has been written properly and the parking co's rely on that to amke their threats look like substance

 

Now get pictures of the signs etc so we can show you where you win and they lose.

So I'm thinking that its better to appeal now just in case I do have to end up paying as i would get the reduced rate.

 

I know i have to write an appeal to them would I show my hand, part of my hand or none?

 

Is there a standard letter that has been used? Do people generally ignore them is that the best?

[ericsbrother]

well, you knew that anyway because all they are doing is following the law. Doesnt make it any more valid as a claim

[ericsbrother]

also ask yourself when did you sign a credit agreement with DR+ that allows them to add this mystery £60 unicorn food tax to the supposedlt CONTRACTUAL charge? then look up the FCA's list of licenced credit brokers and see if DR+ is on there- no it isnt.

 

That should tell you that all isnt right with this demand.

 

However, reading ANY other thread where they are mentioned will have told you the same.

 

Always ignore a dca, they have no powers or interest in any matter ever.

[ericsbrother]

expect a nastly letter from a solicitor next, the amount will jump back up to £154 and you shpuld consider telling them where to get off

[ericsbrother]

Yes, but not until then. The letter to the solicitor will be used in evidence, these stupid letter cant and wont be

[ericsbrother]

of course you have, this is their last attempt at trying to persuade you that black is white.