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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Last year my partner and i brought a tv from comet!

 

While going through all the paper work with the man that was serving us, we were told we would recieve the bill in 5-6 weeks time.

 

and to my dismay in the 6 weeks we did recieve the bill, which had been put on to a comet store card that charges 28.9% APR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now luckily as we paid it straight off we did not have to pay any extra interest

and recieved an apologetic letter to the complaint we made!

 

But surely this must be illegal without the persons consent??

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Last year my partner and i brought a tv from comet!

 

While going through all the paper work with the man that was serving us, we were told we would recieve the bill in 5-6 weeks time.

 

and to my dismay in the 6 weeks we did recieve the bill, which had been put on to a comet store card that charges 28.9% APR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Now luckily as we paid it straight off we did not have to pay any extra interest

and recieved an apologetic letter to the complaint we made!

 

But surely this must be illegal without the persons consent??

 

My son had a similar experience with a major store a few years ago.

 

Went in to make a purchase and was offered 10 or 20 percent off the price if he placed it on a card. Then the trouble started. He received a letter and store card but had to phone an 0870 number to activate the card which he did.

 

Within the call he was asked if he would be interested in payment protection, to which he replied "yes but first send me some details". His bank account was debited £6.00 per month for eighteen months (the whole of the purchase had been paid on month one). He was having dificulty and ask me to assist.

 

I contacted the drawer requesting a refund and was offered half as a goodwill gesture which was unacceptable. They said they didn't deal with the sales company that sold him the protection plan and could not send a copy of the conversation. I concluded the call telling them full refund or further action.

 

Now the best part was writing to his bank asking them to credit his account under the Direct Debit Guarantee scheme. (Instantly credited with all eighteen months)

 

Two days later a cheque arrived for the half that they had offered as a goodwill gesture, this was banked. A cd of the telephone conversation was also enclosed.

 

Another letter arrived requesting repayment of their goodwill gesture as the bank had charged back. Ignored, heard nothing since.

PUTTING IT IN WRITING & KEEPING COPIES IS A MUST FOR SUCCESS

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My initial feelings are that this is a classic [problem]; you think you are signing a sales agreement when really you are signing a credit agreement (if you haven't signed anything it's unenforceable anyway).

 

I'm not going to waffle on about this one but the answer is to always read through the paperwork you have signed, and cancel immediately if you are not happy (the law allows a "cooling off" period to give you chance to check what you have signed up for, the retailers know that most people just don't bother reading it).

 

ALWAYS be suspicious if they are offering an incentive for deferred payment, think about it, unless they have something to gain by you not paying in full at the point of sale ther must be a reason and the only reason as far as these companies are concerned is profit. Nothing else makes sense.

I only mouth my opinion, please look elsewhere for sensible advice! :)

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Same thing happened to us when we bought a fridge freezer on 0% interest. Actually, we didn't end up paying interest because we didn't use the card until we needed a washing machine, but my point is we didn't ask for a card and wasn't expecting one.

 

I was on the phone to them today, funnily enough, because we'd missed last month's payment and they charged us £15 - which I got them to take off (at least for the time being).

 

We also found that the minimum amount each month (on the fridge) was something like £12pm - we used to pay at least £20 - and one month, thinking we were ahead because of it, I didn't pay it - and then got this bloody charge again! They removed it, but it seems it doesn't doesn't matter how far ahead with your payments you are, you still need to pay the "minimum payment" per month.

 

I dunno, it wasn't obvious to us anyway. But I thought I'd mention it in case it happens to anyone else.

 

I hope I haven't hijacked your thread, if I have, sorry, just ignore me then!!! :)

But then again, what do I know?

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Yes it's worth bearing in mind too that with most credit agreements if you miss a payment it will show as a missed payment on your credit file regardless of the fact that you may have paid exrta earlier on and be "ahead" with your payments.

 

Unless you are paying a lot of interest (if you're on interest free for example) the best thing to do is set up a direct debit for the minimum payments and keep your money in an interest paying account.

I only mouth my opinion, please look elsewhere for sensible advice! :)

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