Jump to content


  • Tweets

  • Posts

  • Recommended Topics

  • Our picks

    • If you are buying a used car – you need to read this survival guide.
      • 1 reply
    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
      • 81 replies
    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
      • 161 replies
    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
        • Like

Barclaycard decline then uphold complaint.


style="text-align: center;">  

Thread Locked

because no one has posted on it for the last 2936 days.

If you need to add something to this thread then

 

Please click the "Report " link

 

at the bottom of one of the posts.

 

If you want to post a new story then

Please

Start your own new thread

That way you will attract more attention to your story and get more visitors and more help 

 

Thanks

Recommended Posts

I've decided not to accept the offer and want a decision now from an ombudsman.

 

I rang BC Friday and they admitted that they failed to respond to my letter of complaint.???

 

PW

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. <br />

Winston Churchill

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 132
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

I doubt very much that they forgot anything. I'm quite sure that it is just part of their game of delaying, obstructing and frustrating the procedure.

 

They want to win – and they don't care how they do it.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

The Ombudsman has backed the adjudicators descision and confirmed that my "complaint isn't one we can look into"

 

The Ombudsman states - "Under DISP Rules complaint-handling isn't something which is regulated in its own right".......what the hell is she on about???

 

So banks are allowed to treat customers unfairly as long as its under the umbrella of a "complaint"

 

Paul

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. <br />

Winston Churchill

Link to post
Share on other sites

The Ombudsman has backed the adjudicators descision and confirmed that my "complaint isn't one we can look into"

 

The Ombudsman states - "Under DISP Rules complaint-handling isn't something which is regulated in its own right".......what the hell is she on about???

 

So banks are allowed to treat customers unfairly as long as its under the umbrella of a "complaint"

 

Paul

 

The FOS can only look into certain complaints - namely, those categorised as regulated activites. It can look into other issues - such as poor customer service, but only if it comes alongside a complaint about a regulated activity.

 

A complaint to try and recover fees paid to a CMC would probably fail anyway - whether it was considered by FOS or a court. Barclaycard didn't force you to use the CMC. If you were unhappy with their initial response, you had an option to challenge it for free... i.e go straight to FOS.

 

The best hope one has is that the business makes a goodwill offer.

Link to post
Share on other sites

The FOS can only look into certain complaints - namely, those categorised as regulated activites. It can look into other issues - such as poor customer service, but only if it comes alongside a complaint about a regulated activity.

 

A complaint to try and recover fees paid to a CMC would probably fail anyway - whether it was considered by FOS or a court. Barclaycard didn't force you to use the CMC. If you were unhappy with their initial response, you had an option to challenge it for free... i.e go straight to FOS.

 

The best hope one has is that the business makes a goodwill offer.

 

What if a customer trusts the bank and therefore believes the initial decision is the correct one??

 

Don't you think BC should have the decency to answer my letter wherein i ask - the reason they initially reject then uphold my complaint ??

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. <br />

Winston Churchill

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't find that this decision is at all surprising.

 

I have already pointed out in this thread - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?445865-Barclaycard-decline-then-uphold-complaint.&p=4735915&viewfull=1#post4735915 and elsewhere that the FOS does not have the power to make decisions on issues which are more properly under COBS or BCOBS.

 

As you know from our own conversations, I consider that the approach to the FOS was a waste of time

 

You say

… banks are allowed to treat customers unfairly…
but actually this is not correct. Under the FCA regs they are not allowed to treat customers unfairly. However you didn't try to invoke the FCA regulations. You went looking for a solution which some arbitrator considers was fair to both sides. You shouldn't be surprised at the result.

 

Other than having wasted a year of your time, the route to a COBS/BCOBS solution is still available to you if you're prepared to go the County Court route.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't find that this decision is at all surprising.

 

I have already pointed out in this thread - http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?445865-Barclaycard-decline-then-uphold-complaint.&p=4735915&viewfull=1#post4735915 and elsewhere that the FOS does not have the power to make decisions on issues which are more properly under COBS or BCOBS.

 

As you know from our own conversations, I consider that the approach to the FOS was a waste of time

 

You say but actually this is not correct. Under the FCA regs they are not allowed to treat customers unfairly. However you didn't try to invoke the FCA regulations. You went looking for a solution which some arbitrator considers was fair to both sides. You shouldn't be surprised at the result.

 

Other than having wasted a year of your time, the route to a COBS/BCOBS solution is still available to you if you're prepared to go the County Court route.

 

 

I am prepared to go down the CC route and will consider doing so in the next few days.

An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. <br />

Winston Churchill

Link to post
Share on other sites

I am prepared to go down the CC route and will consider doing so in the next few days.

 

I'd be cautious.

 

Barclaycard will basically point out that your claim is essentially a claim for costs. Costs which were incurred by you, of your own freewill. They'll explain that no attempt was made to mitigate the costs, for example, by using the recommended channels of appeal when they gave the initial response to your complaint.

 

They'll also explain that they were within their rights to reject your complaint at first. Most big businesses - and Barclaycard should be no exception - have changed the way they look at complaints a great deal in the past few years. This is because they have learned lessons from complaints which have be decided previously, usually by the FOS. As time has gone on, approaches to certain cases have been developed. A complaint which could have been quite reasonably rejected a few years ago may now be upheld today given the approaches formulated.

 

Of course, it is your choice - but just make sure you get some decent advice beforehand.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 Caggers

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Have we helped you ...?


×
×
  • Create New...