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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Mobile phone contracts are service contracts and not credit agreements, so a CCA request is pointless,

all Lowlifes will do is pocket the pound and claim that you made this payment toward this alleged debt,

therefore resetting the SB clock....nothing to worry about easily set right.

 

The letter you should have sent, if at all is the No debt acknowledged one.

However, if you rang them and didn't withhold your number they will now harass you day and night for their ill gotten gains.

 

NEVER EVER ring a debt collector, they have absolutely NO legal rights whatsoever, all they rely on is the debtors lack of knowledge and harassment and intimidation tactics.

 

If they have never written to you, nor the moby phone companies then let sleeping dogs lie.

You need to attack those companies first and ignore everyone else, unless of course you receive court documents.

 

The OC's will say settled, as they have palmed their bad debts off to these parasites, moby phone debts are notorious for having charges added which can be reclaimed.

 

A SAR (£10) to the moby phone Coy in question will show if there are any fees/charges you can reclaim.

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I have a copy of the letter which clearly states I sent the £1 for a copy of the CCA so If they do reset the SB clock suppose I have grounds for a dispute

Yes you will!

 

I also have a ccj with marlins due to a bank account getting overdrawn by £90 and IIt has risen to over 1500!

REALLY!! That is very interesting, can you start a new thread on that and others will be able to advise accordingly and give them a bloody nose!

 

Is there anything I can do to get these wiped or is it just a cas e of waiting...

Unfortunately wiping debts is a misnomer, arguing their legality is much more straight forward....marlins are pests at the best of times, and they need to be put back in their little box.

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You can add a notice of correction on your credit files telling them that the default dates are incorrect, you can also make a formal complaint to the credit ref agency informing them that they are processing incorrect data, and they need to correct it or face possible legal action against themselves and the company they allowed to place said incorrect data, for defamation of character. BUT only threaten them with this if you are willing to take legal action against them.

 

Lowlifes have one of my moby debts, for a tiny amount, they like to email and sent one letter, I've just ignored them and don't ever intend to communicate with them unless I get bored and want to bait them.

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Correct mobile phone are service agreements and not credit agreements.

Notice of assignments are what they have sent you, not deeds of assignment.

How much is the moby debt?

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OK then, well the way to attack this would be IMO to send the phone company a SAR for the phone accounts, if they are all with the same company then this will only cost you a tenner, but, I would probably hit the £900+ one first, and see if there are any fees or charges on it, whcih can be reclaimed to bring the account back below the BR £750 threshold.

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Sorry, the BR= Bankruptcy. The threshold or figure by which they can make you BR is £750, however it will cost them more than that to file for your BR.

 

If you can get the figure down underneath that amount then not only can they not threaten you with BR, but they couldn't force it on you either.

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I'm going to send the sar to the 900 pound one.what is the br 750 threshold if you don't mind.me asking

 

Are the other two accounts with separate phone companies?

Ensure you send the £10 postal order and SAR via recorded delivery, and they have 40 calender days in which to send you everything they have regarding the account, send it to the moby phone coy, NOT lowlifes, all they need know is that you have submitted a SAR and will only correspond with them after you have reclaimed all of the fees charges and interest on the account.

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I wouldn't send those letters at all, either use FOTL or use CAG advice.

Please remember that you should remove all identifiers off anything you scan and post up, trolls trawl this site, and they will now know your plan of attack,

IMO that little lot means nothing, anyone can fabricate some numbers and dates on a spreadsheet and try and pass it off as an invoice.

 

As this is above the bankruptcy threshold of £750, then lowlifes being lowlifes, will no doubt become litigious and rumble on about BR.

How much of that figure is made up of charges?

 

You might be better sending a SAR off to the phone company to look at what is physically owed and what are charges.

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Good so you have your SAR, have they loaded it with anything like the remainder of your contract?

Can you just give a bit more background as to how the amount got this high?

 

Who is named against the default on your credit file?

It is likely that O2 flogged it to wetcloths, who int turn flogged it onto lowlifes, a classic case of a bad debt doing the rounds in order to keep their heads above water.

 

Check your credit file first, then I would be thinking of sending them (lowlifes) something along the lines of a prove it letter to start with.

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Im amazed people think that FOTL crap actually works. its good to see the OP is staying well away from it now.

 

I use FOTL in my daily life, it works for me, just like God/Jesus works for others.

It is ignorant to poke fun and try and ridicule others who have a different belief and understanding of the world opposed to your own,

FOTL does work, but you have to know how to use it correctly, just as consumer law works, you just have to know what letter to send

to whom and when, or what particular legislation you need to quote, to whom and when.

 

Years ago, the banks, industries and corporations were wetting themselves, knowing full well how they were ripping us all off, conning us on a daily basis, robbing and bleeding us dry every single day, merely because they believed we were stupid and uneducated, look how far CAG has come, FOTL is well ahead, but you all think we're nuts?

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BB i meant in regard to debts etc. It DOESNT work, and the only time it appears to is if the DCA's simply cannot be arsed chasing you. So they sell it on, and the FOTL people claim a victory.

 

FOTL arguments might work in other areas of life, but not in consumer debts.

 

Yes fully agree, FOTL is definitely not to be used when arguing debts... :thumb:

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