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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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some background.

 

The company behind LottobyText was Marketing Craze Limited.

 

On 06 December 2012 they were fined by the Regulator (PhonepayPlus) £250,000 and ordered to refund all complainants.

 

PhonepayPlus don't allow links but here it is.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=58055745&postcount=14

 

Marketing Craze recently changed their name to Bitstacker Limited.

 

On 2nd July PhonepayPlus launched an Emergency procedure against Bitstacker.

http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/News-And-Events/News/2013/7/Emergency-procedures-initiated-2-July-2013.aspx

 

Emergency procedure investigation

2 July 2013

 

PhonepayPlus, the UK regulator for premium rate telephone services, has launched an Emergency procedure investigation under paragraph 4.5 of its Code of Practice (Twelfth Edition) (the Code), following internal monitoring conducted by PhonepayPlus. This monitoring evidenced affiliate marketing that appeared to utilise a form of malware known as ransomware to lock consumers’ internet browsers and force them to interact with online offers which directed them to the Level 2 provider, Bitstacker Limited’s “lottobytext” subscription service(s).

Bitstacker Limited has been identified as the Level 2 provider responsible for the service. A Tribunal will decide whether the service is in breach of the Code as soon as is reasonably possible after PhonepayPlus has received a response from the Level 2 provider to its Emergency procedure breach notice, which is to be sent to Bitstacker Limited in due course. The service has now been suspended pending conclusion of the investigation and a decision by the Tribunal.

In the meantime, other providers are reminded that enabling this service, or any other services that operate in a similar way, may result in breaches being raised against them.

 

Update to Emergency procedure investigation against Bitstacker Limited published on 2 July 2013

Update published 4 July 2013

 

Following the instigation of the Emergency procedure, Bitstacker Limited (Bitstacker) requested a review of the use of the procedure in accordance with paragraph 4.5.3(b) of the Code. The Tribunal considered Bitstacker’s written and oral submissions in relation to the grounds on which it asserted that the Emergency procedure should not have been used and, in the alternative, that access to the service shortcodes should no longer be prevented and all withheld monies released. During the course of informal representations Bitstacker withdrew its assertion that the Emergency procedure should not have been used and agreed that its use had been appropriate.

Having considered all the information before it including the particular nature of the service, the Tribunal decided that the Emergency procedure should continue pending completion of the normal Emergency procedure process, but concluded that in accordance with paragraph 4.5.3© that access to Bitstacker’s service shortcodes should be permitted, subject to the following conditions:

The Level 2 provider is to immediately cease all promotion of the service through online affiliate marketing of any form or description;

The Level 2 provider is to forthwith provide written confirmation to PhonepayPlus that it has ceased all promotion of the service through online affiliate marketing and provide an undertaking that it will not promote any part of the service using online affiliate marketing until such time as a determination has been made by a Tribunal on the substantive case;

Access to the service shortcodes may only resume once the Level 2 provider has provided evidence that its use of all online affiliate marketing has ceased, to the satisfaction of the PhonepayPlus Executive;

If PhonepayPlus reasonably suspects that the service is being promoted through online affiliate marketing prior to the Tribunal determination, PhonepayPlus may direct the Level 1 provider to immediately terminate access to all service shortcodes.

The Tribunal also decided, in accordance with paragraph 4.5.3© of the Code that the Level 1 provider should be directed to cease to retain all monies in excess of £250,000 held by it under PhonepayPlus’ direction. The Level 1 provider is to continue to retain the sum of £250,000 in accordance with PhonepayPlus’ direction.

 

You should make an official complaint to PhonepayPlus and contact Bitstacker again for a full refund (or something that approaches a full refund).

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