bailiffs name and location mobile as well

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

what should happen is when you recieve a letter from the bailiffs post it here ie name or bailiff phone number and adress they are working from. will soon figure out their working patterns. if it was possible i would start to stick aload of bailiffs photos here then everybody would be able to share it.

[ozzywizard]

Seems like you have your own private little war going on, sorry to sound harsh but I really think you are in the wrong place if this is what you think we are about. I read your post on evading parking tickets before the moderators deleted it and I sure do hope no one else read it as it was illegal and leaves people wide open for prosecution.

 

Seriously im not starting an argument as I have too much respect for this place to do that but tone your posts down and think about what you are typing .

 

This thread should also be removed.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

sorry just getting a bit excited

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

i have been looking for a forum like this for ages as i knew what i needed to do but not the wording or support that i needed which is what i am getting from here.

[barracad]

what should happen is when you recieve a letter from the bailiffs post it here ie name or bailiff phone number and adress they are working from. will soon figure out their working patterns. if it was possible i would start to stick aload of bailiffs photos here then everybody would be able to share it.

 

I really don't see the point of this or what, if anything, you are trying to achieve.

 

 

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[blfuk1]

I really don't see the point of this or what, if anything, you are trying to achieve.

 

This site is very interesting.

 

I see people in genuine difficulty with genuine gripes in greater number than people with an axe to grind for obviously personal reasons.

 

I am happy to help with posts as someone with a knowledge of what should and shouldn't be and can and can't be done.

 

If you accept this as honest input then it may help. If you don't like it because it doesn't suit then you reap what you sow.

 

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Proverb.

[dragonlord002]

what should happen is when you recieve a letter from the bailiffs post it here ie name or bailiff phone number and adress they are working from. will soon figure out their working patterns. if it was possible i would start to stick aload of bailiffs photos here then everybody would be able to share it.

 

seem like a nice idear get a site up m8 out of the uk preferably.

[blfuk1]

seem like a nice idear get a site up m8 out of the uk preferably.

 

We dealt with issues like this in the days of the slightly less popular community charge - or poll tax. Bailiffs were followed around by pleasant 'activists' from groups like Class War; bailiff office staff were asaulted, often seriously by activists who waited outside bailiff offices, bailiffs were assualted at homes when executing warrants, while waiting at traffic lights and when shopping with their families.

 

They eventually got rid of poll tax and replaced it with council tax and bailiffs carried on executing warrants and dealing with debtors and activists and we're still getting assaulted. We've been around for 1,000 years. Why? Because society needs us.

 

The Englishman's home is his castle only because a bailiff case made it so! But, modern law and society has declared that he can no longer hide from his responsibilities or the law inside his castle.

 

This country is governed by laws and the people that make them are elected by the people who must abide by them.

 

You clearly don't like bailiffs probably because you don't like paying your dues. Good reason to get rid of bailiffs - not. Perhaps those who have had the misfortune to do time in jail for commiting a crime should set up a site also to name and shame the police who knicked them, the jury that convicted them, the judge who sentenced them and the wardens who kept them in custody.

 

When you set up your hate campaign outside the UK, why don't you go and live there to run it?

[adamski]

Have you informed the Mods, Admin you are using this site , there are rules about this! i for one feel you are not welcome with your views, i feel this site is about changing the society you feel so comfortable about enforcing its views on us whether we agree about it or not.

I pay my dues like 99% of us here i pay taxes, i pay interest on extortionate loans and credit, i pay unlawful charges (one of the many injustices you uphold)

 

To put crime and debt in the same category is extreme and ridiclulous.

 

You seem to enjoy your work, do you and can you tell us why, i for one could not go to work each day and cause misery for the real people of this country on behalf of the greedy, uncaring corporate misers that are destroying our communities, people and once great nation purley for their own financial gain.

 

If you have not already informed the admin of this site you are are here and your profession please do so.

 

adamski

[blfuk1]

Have you informed the Mods, Admin you are using this site , there are rules about this! i for one feel you are not welcome with your views, i feel this site is about changing the society you feel so comfortable about enforcing its views on us whether we agree about it or not.

I pay my dues like 99% of us here i pay taxes, i pay interest on extortionate loans and credit, i pay unlawful charges (one of the many injustices you uphold)

 

To put crime and debt in the same category is extreme and ridiclulous.

 

You seem to enjoy your work, do you and can you tell us why, i for one could not go to work each day and cause misery for the real people of this country on behalf of the greedy, uncaring corporate misers that are destroying our communities, people and once great nation purley for their own financial gain.

 

If you have not already informed the admin of this site you are are here and your profession please do so.

 

adamski

 

Yes I have and I have been open about it on site - I mean Blfuk1?

 

And you entitled to your views as I am on your comments.

 

First you should know that private bailiffs, like me, do not enforce 'debt' per se. We only execute warrants issued by the magistrates court (the criminal court of the land). State bailiffs execute warrants for debt in the county court and private High Court Enforcement Officers execute warrants for debt in the High Court.

 

The warrants we execute are for unpaid council tax, business rates and parking penalties due under warrant to local authorities; unpaid fines, compensation and confiscation orders due to magistrates' courts and upaid tax and VAT owed to HM Revenue & Customs. The only 'debt' we recover is unpaid rent for commercial landlords.

 

Second, I do not uphold unlawful charges.

 

Third, the Government put civil debt (council tax etc) into the criminal courts not bailiffs.

 

Fourth, I do enjoy my work as I hope you do yours. I don't know what you do but for all I know you may be a mechanic working for a rip off garage!

 

Finally, why do you assume I cause misery. I always deal fairly with the people I meet and I certainly didn't instigate any of the issues which caused a court to issue a warrant against them. I'll bet I've had more 'thank you's for doing my job properly than you have.........

 

Have a good night - I will.

[Ellie968]

Bailiffs and stuff understandably get passions raised. Blkuk1 has a point though - as the law stands - much as some people (me included) may regret it - public bodies mainly magistrates and local authorities can and do use bailiffs to collect unpaid fines and taxes. Until the law is changed there will always be bailiffs out there doing the work and it is better that it is the more reputable people that are doing it - can't say whether Blkuk1 is one of those. however this site should be about open views and personally I find it helpful to get the views of bailiffs and debt collectors - sometimes to challenge and also to acknowledge another viewpoint - mods no censorship please. (apart from the pbvious abuse stuff etc etc).

[dragonlord002]

i say hes not welcome.

[dragonlord002]

We dealt with issues like this in the days of the slightly less popular community charge - or poll tax. Bailiffs were followed around by pleasant 'activists' from groups like Class War; bailiff office staff were asaulted, often seriously by activists who waited outside bailiff offices, bailiffs were assualted at homes when executing warrants, while waiting at traffic lights and when shopping with their families.

 

They eventually got rid of poll tax and replaced it with council tax and bailiffs carried on executing warrants and dealing with debtors and activists and we're still getting assaulted. We've been around for 1,000 years. Why? Because society needs us.

 

The Englishman's home is his castle only because a bailiff case made it so! But, modern law and society has declared that he can no longer hide from his responsibilities or the law inside his castle.

 

This country is governed by laws and the people that make them are elected by the people who must abide by them.

 

You clearly don't like bailiffs probably because you don't like paying your dues. Good reason to get rid of bailiffs - not. Perhaps those who have had the misfortune to do time in jail for commiting a crime should set up a site also to name and shame the police who knicked them, the jury that convicted them, the judge who sentenced them and the wardens who kept them in custody.

 

When you set up your hate campaign outside the UK, why don't you go and live there to run it?

my heart bleeds for you tell then next one that does you ill willl bye him a pint.

[ozzywizard]

I work for powergen as some of you know, I am here to help in any way I can. In my job I work on prepayment and debt negotiation. If anyone on this site has had a bad experience with Powergen staff would you also feel I am not welcome ? . Please do not judge everyone by the actions of a minority.

 

You know the good thing about this site is the shared knowledge and I for one am glad there is a bailiff and a bank worker and a utility worker on this site to help out when they see a missjustice. It is good to know also that there are moral people in these companies that are there to make a living and also make a differance.

 

Lets not throw stones at somone we do not even know whose actions contribute to a good site we all benifit from. If the moderators/admin asked them to leave then they would be wrong to stay but otherwise as long as they show respect and abide by our rules then they are welcome.

[Bookworm]

Quite right.

 

blfuk1 is being polite, clear, and his posts are both legible and balanced. He doesn't hurl threats or apportion blame, and I would like the courtesy to be extended back to him, regardless of what your opinion of his profession is.

 

Thank you.

[stevep]

Why wouldn't blfuk1 be welcome? (s)he is giving us advice and assistance without any seeking anything from us!!

 

If you are against bailiffs, because they are bailiffs - this really isn't the site for you. If you are against bailiffs abusing their position - then welcome!

 

All of the advice i have seen from blfuk1 has just been to advise on the "correct" course of action as prescribed by law - (s)he deserves our thanks.

 

I have had the misfortune of dealing with a number of bailiffs (due to a failed company). Those who were reasonable, kept to the rules, and were polite, worked with me to clear debts and get me back on track. Those who played outside the rules, like the muppet who decided to acost(?) my 8month pregnant wife walking up the street with our other children, are finding me far less co-operative - as the same law which allows them to pursue me, also allows me to pursue them when they step over the mark.

[Guest MizzPiggy]

I agree ! A Bailiff posting without judgement to the view of our service is a good apple! It is so rare to find a Bailiff or Company that is willing to be as open and honest as the person above or some of the other posts I have read.

 

As a mistake when our service first began, it was with confused values of why. The site was anti bailiff till as a service provider we began to see both sides of the issues.

 

Now our service daily has not only 40 complaints while we are silently changing things and finished our pages of research and information to share, but in fact have up to 8 bailiffs a day that balance out our views! It is easy to become focused on the issue not see the broader perspective.

 

It is the system that lets people down, Bailiffs are just the end face to a system you cant deal with. Good apples are well worth keeping and for all the advice and informatin I have read to date that the above Bailiff has left, I would well value his comments and prescence on the site. It is why I personally enjoy being here, to read.

 

Bailiff Law, is the hardest and most diverse area of Law that is old and untouched and has not grown with Society as a whole for change, just ammended along the way. For our service daily, it is learning and I personally am into my second year of law! To work with the Industry, we ourselves have learnt a lot.

 

This site makes me smile, as it is posts of people looking for answers and lots of people that have found their own come here to share them. Not any one solution with a Bailiff or dealing with the issue will be a complete solution for anyone, but to take what you can and formulate your own way of dealing with it, and seeing people join together in opinions to begin to question the system, is why I keep returning.

 

A Bailiff, as above, is the most valuable source of information. I wouldn't lose that sort of help......they are human.....they have a job. To place their numbers and details on the site, is just a personal vendetta and issues of the person themselves to deal with. Yes I too am somewhat suprised that the thread and some posts have not be removed, however....in Oz..we have a saying....that I am glad can be said that on this site, the intent to brandish a war as the person has stated....thanks to people seeing his intent....he has...

 

!Buckleys and none chance of getting support!

 

This site never ceases to make me smile...

[ecobabe]

most of the problems people seem to have on this site is with dodgy baliff's who operate outside the Law. Surely blfuk1, who seems genuine and reasoned can offer advice, as he has offered, about the best way to deal with these 'goons'.

[MARTIN3030]

The Baliffs and collectors here have quite clearly set their stall out.

They do not appear to be akin to those who are discussed daily on the Baliff and debt forums on this site.

Though we know for some this is a very passionate subject and there are mixed views naturally being expressed.

It can only be a good thing that they are allowed here to answer your questions in a civilised and informed manner.In the true spirit of the site they should be shown some respect as they show to the others.

You should remember......This opportunity does not present itself every day.!!

It should be taken with both hands and you never know....you may learn a few things that may come in useful.....instead of coming in for use as judgemental.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

The Baliffs and collectors here have quite clearly set their stall out.

They do not appear to be akin to those who are discussed daily on the Baliff and debt forums on this site.

Though we know for some this is a very passionate subject and there are mixed views naturally being expressed.

It can only be a good thing that they are allowed here to answer your questions in a civilised and informed manner.In the true spirit of the site they should be shown some respect as they show to the others.

You should remember......This opportunity does not present itself every day.!!

It should be taken with both hands and you never know....you may learn a few things that may come in useful.....instead of coming in for use as judgemental.

 

i also agree with what has been said. i have experienced things in a diffrent way. i am not condoning all bailiffs. what blf is saying would have been helpful when my problems started. what he has said is a good note for others to take notice of this.

[blfuk1]

i also agree with what has been said. i have experienced things in a diffrent way. i am not condoning all bailiffs. what blf is saying would have been helpful when my problems started. what he has said is a good note for others to take notice of this.

 

Off the track slightly but just a couple of things to note in terms of what can and can't be done by bailiffs. This is not to start any religeous arguments or debates, OK, as I am eclectic (i.e. I follow a path drawn from many different religions).

 

Enforcement on religious days/holidays - this was raised on another now closed thread and while I'm not trying to re-open it, it is an interesting point....

 

Britain is a Christian society; the Head of State, HM The Queen, is Defender of the [Christian] Faith. That said, modern Britain is a multicultural society with people of many faiths.

 

The religious holidays and important dates of all religions cover many days throughout the year and it would be impossible to 'stay execution' on all of them.

 

Legally, according to the laws of the land, and as a general rule, enforcement should not be undertaken on Sunday, UK Bank Holidays, Good Friday or Christmas Day. The times of day are not restricted in law save for commercial rent (forbidden from sunset to sunrise).

 

Good practice provides that bailiffs are respectful of other religions and cultures but this cannot mean that enforcement cannot take place.

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

same here. same thing on the head. if a bailiff can twist rule to suit him then i think the public has the same right. as blf says there are some bailiffs in the minority because of them the majority suffer.

[Boobaby]

This site is very interesting.

I see people in genuine difficulty with genuine gripes in greater number than people with an axe to grind for obviously personal reasons.

I am happy to help with posts as someone with a knowledge of what should and shouldn't be and can and can't be done.

If you accept this as honest input then it may help. If you don't like it because it doesn't suit then you reap what you sow.

You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Proverb.

 

Currently in dispute with a Bailiff regarding unfair charges made a number of years ago. The company I am in dispute with charged excorbitant fees which I am dealing with, but like others have said on this thread I am not tarring every one with the same brush, every case has to be looked at in it's own merit!!

 

I have just had a successful claim against HSBC but I continue to bank with them and have never had an altercation with any member of their staff!

 

It's the system and the means of enforcing the (sometimes unreasonable) charges that needs looking at!

There has always been and will continue to be people that abuse whatever position they are in!! I am sure that whatever the job you currently undertake someone doing a similar job over the years has taken advantage of that role.

I am a Social Worker and for the small minority we are child snatching, Jesus sandal wearing, meddling do gooders. But for the majority we are a means of support and assistance at often very difficult times. I have been attacked both physically and verbally, had the tyres slashed on my car and sworn and spat at in the street and all for doing the job I love!! Thankfully these instances are very rare, but it is a sad fact that people form their opinions based on their own experiences.

BLFUK1 - I'm not a big fan of the bailiff that visited me but I am sure you are a decent guy and like myself you're trying to earn a living.

So welcome and I have to say I sure admire you, it took some guts to come on here and identify your profession!!

[breadline]

Hi BLFuk1

I was very worried when i first announced i had been a debit collector for welcome Finance as they cause some terrible distress to people, my biggest fear was that i would be hissed of the site, when realy all I wanted to do was help people with what I had experienced whilst being in the employment, once people know you have thier best interest at heart this is a very rewarding place to be, i hope it will be the same for you.

 

BL:)

[Guest HUSBANDKHAN]

breadline and blf do not have anything to worry about. the people that usually get funny are the ones who have never been in a situation and pre empt what happens. like i said when advice is recieved ontime no probs but its when it is recieved afterwards that you think damm if only i knew that before. same with dcs your only making an honest lving like all of us. its the minority who spoil it for the rest.