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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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To Be honest all this rubbish from the police saying they cannot get involved because it is a civil matter stinks, especially when they turn up and take sides with the so called baillifs!

 

these people are blatantly breaking the law but they are left alone or if they are looked into then time drags on so much that most become that fed up and stressed as well as ruined that they drop everything.

 

empty promises from the regulated bodies i.e. Trading standards have done nothing up to now, OFT given chances after chances! solicitors run a mile! even after taking your case on, CAB what do they do?, the police turn a blind eye!

If this was a rogue builder then he would have been wiped out for conning a few people. HOW MANY HAVE THESE CONNED? young, old, sick, poor.

 

T H O U S A N D S !

 

But for years we get the same old stories, problems and outcomes.

Something is not right.

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Hi Actionblusox

 

The OFT have taken the step of revoking LBL ccl on the 16/10/09

 

of course they can appeal and during the appeal stage, they can of course keep trading...But....

 

Don't give up faith - yes it may seem a slow process - and your right a 'rogue builder/plumber' would have been taken out ages ago....

 

The police should do more to assist vunerable consumers - I agree with you - but the whole idea of the OFT is that they are there to assist and protect consumers and protect our civil rights against traders who hold a licence as issued by them - they have revoked the traders licence.

 

Whilst the Trader can now appeal and continue to trade - again - this is good news for those consumers/solicitors who are currently involved in court cases against them - they need time to wrap up their cases - by appealing, Log Book are unwittingly assisting this to happen - do you see where I am coming from.

 

It's a good day - Time for a nice warm cup of coffee I think : )

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To Be honest all this rubbish from the police saying they cannot get involved because it is a civil matter stinks, especially when they turn up and take sides with the so called baillifs!

 

these people are blatantly breaking the law but they are left alone or if they are looked into then time drags on so much that most become that fed up and stressed as well as ruined that they drop everything.

 

empty promises from the regulated bodies i.e. Trading standards have done nothing up to now, OFT given chances after chances! solicitors run a mile! even after taking your case on, CAB what do they do?, the police turn a blind eye!

If this was a rogue builder then he would have been wiped out for conning a few people. HOW MANY HAVE THESE CONNED? young, old, sick, poor.

 

T H O U S A N D S !

 

But for years we get the same old stories, problems and outcomes.

Something is not right.

 

May be we can, may be we can research what can be done when these "agents" turn up. Police officers take a view that this is legel and that as the keeper at fault. May be pointing the police officer in the right direction could be the way forward.

 

It might be worth creating a sticky with the right questions to put to the agents/police.

 

anyone?

 

trooper68

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That's a good question luc1???

 

Logically - the Notice of 'revocation' I saw was against Nine Regions Ltd/as Log Book Loans

 

Log Book Loans is a Franchise - so anybody can buy a Franchise from them.

 

So whilst they all 'Trade/as' Log Book Loans - it may be that other franchisees have not performed in the same way as the Nine Regions Franchisee....

 

Having said that - if the business model of Log Book Loans is based on the same draconian tactics of Nine Regions - then I know for sure if I was a franchisee I would be very worried right now : )

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Trooper..

 

Don't they have something called the 'public protection unit' within the police service - Might be worth Nicky B working with the site team to bring this trader to their notice with support from all other caggers - that would strenghten the overall aim of the OFT and protect innocent consumers (the public that need protecting that is).

 

The site team and Nicky B could see if the police is willing to give one main number to call should they feel harrassed or threatened by this particular trader - especially whilst any Appeal goes through.

 

I'm sure it would be a matter of some kind of 'mass' campaign to alert the police authorities nationwide to this blight on our landscape - like we all know the OFT are doing all they can do - Now we need help for innocent consumers who have to live day to day with the treat of this trader blighting their lives - taking their cars and totally devestating ordinary private lifes ---- grrrrrrrrrrrr

 

Site Team??

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That's a good question luc1???

 

Logically - the Notice of 'revocation' I saw was against Nine Regions Ltd/as Log Book Loans

 

Log Book Loans is a Franchise - so anybody can buy a Franchise from them.

 

So whilst they all 'Trade/as' Log Book Loans - it may be that other franchisees have not performed in the same way as the Nine Regions Franchisee....

 

Having said that - if the business model of Log Book Loans is based on the same draconian tactics of Nine Regions - then I know for sure if I was a franchisee I would be very worried right now : )

 

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Right I see, does anyone know how many companies are t/a LBL?

 

Has anyone on here had any problems with Danesmead?

 

Seems very productive on here today - good to see things are moving forward.

 

 

Luc

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Hi Luc1

 

see: Public Register

 

type in Log Book Loans into the 'trading name' section and it will bring them all up - those that are registered that is.....

 

Danesmead are there..... : (

 

but... I agree, very pruductive today - personally i've been firing on all guns since 3.00 last night - whooohooo

 

Apple : )

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