Icy1 v ACS law

[Huff&Puff]

Wade through this lot:

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/debt-collection-industry/198192-acs-law.html

 

Don't worry though, it's just a nasty scheme to try any extract money from the unwary

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I think it is highly unlikely that you will ever see court papers, the [problem] works by scaring people into paying. If you do get court papers, don't worry, there are a million defences;)

 

Do expect to receive a few more threatograms from them though.

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The legal advice I obtained wasn't very useful and they've basically told me that it would be more costly to me getting a solicitor to work on behalf of me than to pay the £500! Any advice would be greatly received.

 

This is precisely why they set the amount at the level that they do, low enough to make legal advice not an option, and not so high as to make sure that nobody will pay. It is using the legal system as a form of blackmail

 

Having said that, you really don't need a solicitor. ACS (and their predecessors Davenport Lyons) have sent out in the tens of thousands of these letters, and so far all they have done is cherry picked a tiny handful of cases that they have managed to get default judgement on. And even with those there are some doubts as to whether they were "genuine" cases, or whether it was all staged in order to claim in press releases that they had won court cases. Nobody who has shown the slightest willingness to contest the claim has yet been taken to court, and they never will be IMO. If they lose in court, and so far as I can see they have no real evidence of anything at all, then it's game over for them.

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They will keep on sending you letters for a while, that's standard practice

 

You can either send them another letter of denial, or just ignore them. I suspect you'll get another threatogram or two whatever you do, but I'd be very surprised if it went any further than that.

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Hi sorry I dont know what subbing to this thread means, can you explain. Also I contacted my ISP Tiscali they said they have never released any information about me, they have never heard of ACS either. They advised me to send the letters that I had received and would pass them on to the their Fraud Dept. I suggest everyone does the same.

 

That's the sort of idiotic reply that I'd expect from Tiscali They have given out your information, they were ordered to by a court. That's one of the many things that is wrong here, ACS have gone olong to a court saying "Icy1 and others have been downloading copyright material and we want his or her details" and the judge has just ordered ISPs to give it out without any evidence being shown that anybody has actually downloaded anything at all, let alone whether it is actually copyrighted. And ISPs like Tiscali don't make themelves look any better by lying about it afterwards