I don't want to listen to your put downs any more dx - I'll just take a pass on this forum now Thanks to all others for their advice but the sort of commentary from above is exactly the problem with the attitude of people in this country and I'm sick of it

I'm starting to wonder - all the pointers are there through my whole life I guess the moral of the story is for that from now on I don't go out anywhere socially anymore - I'll just live as a hermit which I pretty much do anyway most of the time these days I've got tickets for a gig in Amsterdam next year so I'm sure the people there won't be as uptight as this dump - going forward though I'm really done with British culture and people - just avoid them and I won't be further disappointed going forward Maybe one day I can go and live in Happy Holland again..

But if it turns out to be discrimination then that changes things If I have video evidence of being threatened by one of them also

I will But I hear what you are saying

I did nothing wrong - They are seriously out of order - I will not be let this go If all I've got are straws I will clutch them until they refund me Do I have a straw to clutch with the bar opening statement or not?

Of course never any discrimination against single white guys on their own Didn't see or read anything about the bar being open or closed - but amid all the legalese from these pages they've probably covered themselves to act however they like I'm guessing I didn't see anything about bar closing times on either of the terms and conditions from Queen's Hall or Alt-Tickets alt. tickets ::: Terms & Conditions (alttickets.com) On the Queen's Hall Website all I could find was the following - but I also note that at the top of this page is says we must abide by these to use the website but nothing about entering the venue ? Terms & Conditions | The Queen's Hall (thequeenshall.net)

Bank says they can't raise a Charge Back because I entered the venue - what a load of crap - I'm seriously done with the nightlife industry in this country not one more penny of my money will be going there ever again !

What am I supposed to argue is the reason for me claiming a refund then ? Closing the bar during a set is complete b.s I'm paying for a night out I expect a bar to be open for the full duration of my attendance ! If the reason for doing this is to prevent trouble then that sure worked well on Sunday night, didn't it.. Bottom line here is I paid to see a performance and was forcefully ejected for no good reason and missed it all - they now owe me a refund I talked to someone online from VISA and they told me I must contact my bank I took out insurance on this ticket too so maybe I can claim something there

That works on Debit cards right ? I'll write to them and demand a refund first and tell them if I they don't reimburse me I'll do that - I think it was through a ticket site I bought the ticket though I'm so disappointed in RT - he was really out there in the early days but seems to have turned into some kind of prima donna wanting the doors shut and the bar closed after he takes to the stage - what the hell am I paying £40 quid for to go and see a live act and stand waiting for the last hour and a half waiting for another pint ? it was my one night one in a blue moon - I want to get a bit drunk and have fun and dance and sing - £6+ for a pint in a flimsy plastic tumbler as well If I'm quite honest I'm never going for a night out in Edinburgh again - it's just nothing but attitude from the bar staff or thugs on the door - I often like to just go out on my own and meet people and that works well in places like Holland but over here if you're a single white guy on his own especially my age then you really are discriminated against and this doesn't only apply to the venue currently in question I've had this before at a folk gig actually - Boo Hewerdine - another one that had the bar closed for his set - didn't bother me too much that time as I didn't feel like drinking anyway - I think I'll just swerve folk concerts in the future As for RT - I saw a few acoustics ones - sound wasn't great in there and then after that I don't even know if he came on with a full band and played some of his more rocky bluesy ones which I was hoping for too

Disgusted at the treatment I received in Edinburgh last night for Richard Thompson gig - never seen him live and looked forward to this opportunity for years and all I got to see was about 3 songs before I was forcefully ejected from the premises by their security thugs (some of whom were being quite threatening towards me) - now I've missed this opportunity and might never get another chance They cited the reason as being it was RT's management who requested I be refused entry - because I was allegedly heckling him Slight hyperbole there I think as all I did was call out in between songs something about why the bar was closed at the start of the performance (upon request from RT) The very idea of that - after I've paid good money to come for a night out and go and see some live music the least I expect is to be able to go and buy a pint ! The assault and discrimination was filmed and I will be passing this on to the police whom I have already reported assault to - but they said what I expected them to that "the venue is within their rights" bla bla - not if it's blatant discrimination Also not if the reasons stated are bogus - I can understand if I was being egregiously disruptive to the show but I simply wasn't in any way - just a little bit of audience participation and in between songs ? Big Deal ! So the least these disrespectful bullies can do is return the cost of the ticket as I did not see any of the performance other than a few songs at the start - how do I go about that (other than just writing to them and demanding a refund) ? .. I am so done with this culture that on the basis of this I have decided that I am never going out again in this country - I've got tickets for a gig in Amsterdam next year and everywhere in Europe in general is just more friendly and civilised so I'm looking to emigrate also probably

That's what it says NOW Andyorch - but it was £3 per month when I signed up (seemed like a good deal and a better alternative to Etsy) They bumped all the fees up >300%. I think this was the plan - to lure people to sign up in the run up to Xmas and then Boom! Up goes the price. I don't think this is the first time they've done thie either judging by the reviews. They have refunded me now though and I have told them where they can stick it Interested to know where "the consumer" stands legally on issues like this? "Always read the small print" If a company states that they can change fees etc are they allowed to just whack them up as much as that, without even informing their subscribers?

Numonday are a UK based alternative to Etsy that (appear to) offer a better service Opened an account with them 1 month ago at £3 per month Price gets bumped up to £10 per month (without informing me) Down the bottom in the Terms Of Use: Terms of Use | Numonday "2. Numonday retains the right to modify the legal terms and fee policy at any time without notice." Does "fee policy" include the amount? Whether they are legally in the right or this behaviour from them is downright unethical and tantamount to fraud (in my view) If they fail to refund me (which I am expecting because this is what others have said and they just suspended me from their facebook account) where do I stand?

As expected, mum is getting more letters from them. This is the 3rd letter just arrived (2nd one came a few weeks ago and was tossed into a drawer while I was there and I forgot to look at it) Of course, she is getting worried about it and I've told her what you guys said, ie. they don't know who the driver was and therefore because Scottish law they're stuffed - so just carry on ignore and don't worry Just posting this up for your records - I'm sure if there is anything to worry about someone will let me know. Cheers. park charge letter 3pdf.pdf

BB on the way now apparently - easy as that? Late dad used to have a BB for a heart condition but one time they were difficult in renewing so I’m told.. Anyway - see you far you get with your court action threats (incoming) now you pesky blinders

BB online application done - so wait and see - at least it’s worth applying for if this does ever go to court which it won’t