hi many thanks I have gone on dvla and the colour of the car registered under that plate is white, but the car that hit my wife is dark blue, the same make and model car. the police say they will not investigate as the colours are different, surely if its a hit and run then they have to investigate by law, just to see who was drivng and the damage to his car the longer it goes on he will get it repaired. I will find him as he has been seen local on a number of occasions, I have the reg given out to approx. 20 people so its only a matter of time before friends see it. if the police don't want to help then what can the innocent public do, does someone have to die by this moron before they help? I wanted to go down the legal route but hey....

hi many thanks for the reply CraigMcK the damage is minimal, on a small 6" dent which I should get my friend to push out and the paint is ok, I just want this PXXk off the road, the police have been informed as I said above but we don't know the address and the police wont give it as the car is a different colour, is there anyway I can get the address to see if it was the guy driving it, I posted what happened on my local facebook page (just the car and colour and what happened not the reg) and a woman locally pm'ed me and said this was the same car that mounted the path a few weeks ago and nearly knocked her and her baby in a pram over. if its the same person then he needs to be off the road.

sorry the wifes car had the kids in he was on his own

hi yesterday a car was driving like a nutter behind my wifes car with the young kids in it, she slowed down to let him pass and just as she done it he mounted the grass verge on the left and drove into the left front wing causing a dent, he shouted out of the window and drove off. my 16 year old daughter got the make and reg of the car which was a dark blue Vauxhall insignia, when we reported this to the police they said it must have had fake plates on as the car should have been a white Vauxhall insignia. this seems funny as the wife says it was blue and at 1pm in the afternoon I think she can see clearly. they said they cant do anything as its may be the wrong car? could he have changed the colour, it was a 12 plate car also. any help would be great thank you.

But I was not shown any I'd. As the post states I'd must be shown prior to issuing a penalty. The slip I have states it is a penalty notice.

hi mr firstclassx as you know what is what, can you give me a answer to these please I made a mistake by standing/sitting on the arm of a chair in 1st class as the carriage was ram packed, as I had a zone 2-5 monthly pass why wasn't I asked to pay the extra fee for 1st class, but was ordered to pay a £20 penalty. does the guard issuing the ticket get commission for their sales and/or penalties issues? many thanks

a guard is not a constable, only british transport police can arrest or detain you, below is from a solicitor. It's very unlikely that a court would consider either a ticket collector, a guard nor a Revenue Protection Officer to be an officer in the sense intended by the legislation

I find that hard to believe as a policeman cannot even touch you as this would be physical assault, you can only be restrained by the police once you have been read your rights. and the collectors showed no id either

it was a mistake on my behalf, im just saying can they physically stop you leaving the train without even talking to them. and im asking about a £20 fine and extra payment for a mistake as I had a zone 2-5 card, as I heard they get commission for the higher fare, im asking does this happen?

so how can I tell the difference as they didn't show any identification, if they are taking money surely this should be showed? can they physically stop you leaving a train, as this would be assault, and if I said nothing when asked a question what can they do?

hi all, what is the difference between a revenue inspector and a guard issuing a penalty. my monthly travel card has zones 2-5 so surely I should have paid the excess fare by standing in first class and not the £20, the lady didn't once check my card with a reader. how do I know the lady works for the rail company and not just taking my card details she didn't show me any identification. I have heard from someone who works for the railway that these guards will issue you with the highest out of the 2 fines as they are on commission, this surely is illegal? to do such a thing.

hi I have taken on your point but it was 1 mistake I have made, if they said can you move out of 1st class then I would have moved but to issue a penalty for sitting on an arm, next time ill be sleeping on the table if im getting fined. may thanks for your time.

hi can I ask 1 question, where on the train does it say you cannot stand in first class, some have closing internal doors to section you between standard and 1st class which say you cannot travel in this compartment without a 1st class ticket, this but this train only had the stickers on the window outside no internal dividing doors, so where is this displayed saying no standing....

we are not in india are we, if you are pushing the people out of London that's well and good but they need to have a service that can cope first, Southeastern trains are the worst, having more cancellation, delays than anyone else. this need to be addressed first.

how would a guard make an announcement, you cannot hear or understand what they say anyway, every train has a time slot, its the guard closing the doors that can make up or add to the delays on a service and they should be held accountable for the delays.

firstclassx to make you aware I purchase a monthy 2-5 ticket every month so you saying I should purchase one that cost 2 pound extra is ridiculous, my injury happened at the beginning of the month so how could I forsee that? and YOU said being in such a rush is a laugh, if YOU READ what I put I said the train was DELAYED, every day I travel on this diabolical network, trains delayed "a crew member unavailable", Cancelled, train broken down, signal failure, leaves on the line, wrong kind of rain....how many more excuses for a SHXT service. I came on this site for ADVICE, not criticism from a FIRST CLASS X

many thanks for your reply. I paid the £20 on the spot, the problem is if a train is delayed by 8-10 minutes then there will be a lot of people waiting to get on this train, surely under health and safety if the carriage is vastly overcrowded and there is space in first class why shouldn't you be allowed to stand in first class. its not the peoples fault that their train is delayed. they didn't even note my oyster number on the penalty notice.

hi everyone, I hobbled to catch a train this morning at east Croydon at 611am the platform display was not working so I asked the train dispatcher was this the Clapham train he replied yes, I boarded the train. as I sat in the seat the announcement said the next stop is London Blackfriars. by this time the train was moving, I got off at Blackfriars and told the guy on the platform what had happened he told me to go to platform 1 and get back to east Croydon. I hobbled off to platform 1 as the train was due. I got on this train and exited it at east Croydon at approx. 718 I boarded the next train at east Croydon for Clapham junction this train was late and so there was lots of people waiting I boarded the train and as the train was packed stood in 1st class. the 2 single seats were free so I sat on the arm rest as my damaged knee was aching from running for different trains. about 5 minutes in 3 ticket inspectors said have I a 1st class ticket I replied no, they said I couldn't sit in first class as I didn't have a ticket, I said then were am I to stand as the carriage was ram packed and im sitting on an arm rest not on a seat , she said it doesn't matter and issued me a penalty ticket £20, I told her what happened and she said it was my fault that I got on the wrong train, can someone give me advice, this is the first time this has happened and I am fuming about 1 the guy told me to get on the wrong train 2 the next train was deleyed by 10 minutes from east croydon 3 there was no where else to stand apart from first class. I am currently having physio on my damaged left knee so I needed to sit on the arm rest not the seat as my leg was aching, I have letters mri scan and appointments of proof for this. can someone please give me some advice is this legal to give me a penalty notice for being in first class as the train was absolutely rammed from a delayed train. the train I get on at 611--615is is always empty and this is the one I should have got the train company is southern rail and the ticket inspectors were the same many thanks ian aka shanniani

Hi,many thanks for you quick reply, on the letter it saysACCOUNT NUMBER: xxxxxxxxx (or multiple numbers if more than one account)is this the account i have with them now as the credit card/loan i do not have them details anymore.many thanksIan aka shannianni

hi many thanks for letting me join this great forum,I had PPI a few years back but have moved house since and dont have any details of the credit card/loan, how do i start the ball rolling to see if i am entitled to a claim, my bank is Nationwide and i have been with them since 1988.i'm not very good with these things sorry.many thanks for you help.Ian aka shannianni