explain this to the coucil, be sincere dont argue. Try this first. You need to get the case passed back to them. dont forget to mention what benefits you were on. If it needs looking into request they hold action

well even if they did that would only be 24.50 1st visit & £18 2nd. you got all there charges on the notice of distress ?

A bailiff cannot remove fixtures & fittings. If the flat is charged seperatley from the shop then the door is not internal to the council taxed property.

well if hes defo only been once and hasnt seen u hes on very dodgy ground. Ring the council first thing explain whats happened with the charges. Ask for a spar (special arrangement directly with them). start crying on the phone etc. you should be ok. If you onlu owe this years c tax then theres no harm making direct payments. If they refuse a spar ask for the complaints manager (every authority has one).

tell him the lawfull amount so far is £24.50

you dont have to sign anything for a levy but the bailiff needs to see you to levy. They cant just levy on your car if no one is home. If you are sure they have made only 1 visit without seeing anybody then £24.50 is the fee. £97.30 would be added to the bill for court costs......this money goes to the local authority not the court but is now part of the liability order.

£2000 sounds high for a years council tax. If your single are you claiming single persons discount ? thats 25% off

was the liability order in your name or the immigrants ?

just a guy at a loose end tonight

lol could go on all night here...addictive forum waiting time is included in reasonable costs.....show me case law where proven otherwise. I dont think its used much these days but used to be common. a van charge may be charged without WP. If a levy is made and the debtor refuses to sign, the levy still stands. The bailiff by rights should remove on the spot but doesnt have to. He will return after 5 days with a van & charge a van charge. He can & they do what is called Levy/remove where they levy & remove the goods on the spot charging levy fee & van charge wher no WP is offered or required. they can also just levy & charge the van charge all in the first visit. This practice is frowned upon but is not illegal.

I thought they had been in his reception area but yes it does say they havent. Not sure why you are including rent distraint when this is rates. waiting time falls under reasonable costs. Did you not know bailiffs can relevy when they return ? so basically if a bailiff calls at your house & levys on 1 philips colour Tv & you sign a WP he can then return after 5 days & if you dont pay he can relevy on everything plus car outside if required to satisfy the amount & then take the lot.

I dont know where to start. you are wrong on every count here ( no offence) why charge a second visit fee if they have levied ? a van fee is more. if they want they can levy & van in one hit (not illegal) they can take whats on the levy..........but if they want more they can relevy no problem. if they remove goods they can charge a removal fee plus any waiting time. why would they say he didnt sign a WP, they dont have to offer one in the first place. money to the council is all well & good but unless he clears it they will be back. He could pay the council direct then they have no right to remove for fees only.

He may not offer you walking possession & just take the goods. tbh with an open door business signing a wp isnt really a big deal.

Well it really depends who your dealing with. If they have levied & charged a van charge ......guessing £400. They will want that covered at least. Problem is if they work for a company that only pays them commission if they clear the lot then thats what they will want. If you have easy to carry goods they will hold out. If your goods are worthless or very heavy then they will take part payment. I think the best deal you could get will be lump sum (charges) rest £100 per week. hope this helps. btw a few years back kicking internal doors happened on a daily basis. Nowdays its very unlikley.

yes if its all one company. If you dont unlock the internal doors he may force them at your cost. rent or rates ? powers vary on what he can take depending which.

The remedies for recovery of unpaid Council Tax are: Attachment of earnings or benefits Distraint Order (seizure of goods to the value of the debt by bailiffs) Insolvency proceedings (bankruptcy) Putting a charge on the debtor’s property Imprisonment. So for not commiting a crime you can be imprisoned.......sounds weird

Still a crime..... a few years back you would go to prison for non payment. If it wasnt a crime how would that work. I do remember a seminar when data protection came out and there was an exemption that allowed the info to be passed to bailiffs. Like all seminars I was half asleep.

"the prevention or detection of crime" Non payment of council tax is a crime (like it or not) so passing on the details of someone commiting crime to prevent that crime is ok The only time data protection is a problem is when the bailiff talks to a 3rd party ie anyone not on the liability order. If it a Ltd company he may speak to anyone in employment of the said.

I presume no judgement has been obtained & these are acting on behalf of a solictor before they commence proceedings. They can charge but cant enforce.

Never heard anyone calling themselves that but yes it can happen. If a bailiffs ticket has expired I guess u could call him non-certificated. His powers would be very Ltd. On coucil tax he can only do calls which have already been levied by a certificated guy. He cant touch parking whatsoever. For someone to call themselves as such I'd be very wary indeed.

3 liability orders will mean 3 levys.

ok Thanks guys (even the wrong ones ). Guess I'll pay the man. Not that bothered as he was nice enough & Ive gained 2 years interest on my coucil tax lol. Im a bit suprised that advice is given out on here by people just guessing though.....could be dangerous :-|

Anybody please? Dont just say he cant if you dont know. If he cant then I need proof that he cant otherwise I have no argument. you guys must be looking up laws I hope. Thanks again

Ok I rang him today & said he wasnt allowed to do this. He said as he was the only person levying then it was ok. He said 2 different bailiifs cannot but 1 could. I told him Id had advice & he asked where they were getting there info as there isnt anything in the law that said he cant do it. Have you got any law that I can quote him please? thanks

Hi A Bailiff called at my house today & had 2 notices for unpaid council tax. He levied on my car that was on the drive on both notices. One was for 2007 & 1 was for 2008. Is he allowed to levy on my car twice at the same time ? Thanks