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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

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      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
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      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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During my visits to court, i asked lots and lots of questions. I even asked the clerk out for a drink, but thats another story.

Once they receive notice of judgement they will still have time to have the judgement set aside, but they wont.

They wont have a good enough reason to.

I really think the courts are the best people to answer your questions, i can only tell you what happened to me, not what you should do.

I understand you still expect things to go wrong, so did i, i even posted it in my thread.

But you will be ok.

You will, You will, You will

But you have to do your bit now as judgements are not entered automatically, you have to request it..

Go for it...

 

P.S. I would much rather enter judgement now, rather then risk a stay at hearing.

I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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cheers tc,what was his name?theres no way i am not filing for judgement.just trying to understand all eventualities and get it right.think judges must have ordered these directions to save courts time.but it was pre oft debacle.tez

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cheers tc,what was his name?

 

HIS name was Rachael.

 

hi, just a thought when i hand over the n225 is there any thing else ie,proof of my bundles being on time.ta.tez.

 

No, nothing, just updated interest to date of submitting for judgement.

I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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cheers,on n225 form it has.....court fees shown on claim....

ok,£120 mcol.

what about £100 allocation fee as that was not on original claim.do you put that on as well or leave it t0 court to do.ta.tez.

 

Sorry, i never got that far.

Perhaps one of the more knowledgeable peeps can answer that one for you.

I wouldnt leave ANYTHING for the court to do for you.

I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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cheers,on n225 form it has.....court fees shown on claim....

ok,£120 mcol.

what about £100 allocation fee as that was not on original claim.do you put that on as well or leave it t0 court to do.ta.tez.

hi,anyone there apart from thay guy who chats up court clerks.lol.tez

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HIS name was Rachael.

 

 

 

No, nothing, just updated interest to date of submitting for judgement.

bet you had positive answer when she seen all your claims that were won.tez

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hi saint,bit of a prat aint i,times ive had the orders in and out of envelope and did not cotton on that theres a small chance of getting something.t.c. and welshcakes have helped advise.taken yours all the way, whats yours ta.tez

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Tez,

 

If you don't get a N225 and fill it in and take to your court I am personally going to come over there and drag you down!!!

 

The Judge has let you win without going to court - this is because the bank screwed up, they thought they could stroll in and do whatever - the judges are fighting back!

 

When you take the N225, make sure you take the MOST UP TO DATE SOCs with you, ensuring you have added the AQ and MCOL fee - the judgement says you can do this!

 

Hand it over, and a few days later you will get your money. I can't see the judge granting a set-aside, because he made the order based on the fact the bank had no intention of producing documents. Bs cant argue against that.

 

NOW GET DOWN THE COURT!!!!!!

 

Good luck

 

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Tez,

 

If you don't get a N225 and fill it in and take to your court I am personally going to come over there and drag you down!!!

 

The Judge has let you win without going to court - this is because the bank screwed up, they thought they could stroll in and do whatever - the judges are fighting back!

 

When you take the N225, make sure you take the MOST UP TO DATE SOCs with you, ensuring you have added the AQ and MCOL fee - the judgement says you can do this!

 

Hand it over, and a few days later you will get your money. I can't see the judge granting a set-aside, because he made the order based on the fact the bank had no intention of producing documents. Bs cant argue against that.

 

NOW GET DOWN THE COURT!!!!!!

 

Good luck

 

Peter

hi stranger,just got back from court after filing for judgement.never took updated socs,so on phone now.no not required according to clerk,so long as figures are not miles out no probs.tez.

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went to file judgement,sat down handed over n225,clerk said you cant do that,stomach rumbled,i said why not,she then read directions and said i have not come across one like this.she dissapeared to talk to boss,came back and said i can.i said when will i hear from court,she said 10-14 working days because of staff shortage.i said christ the hearings next week.back to see boss.we will try and rush it,if not heard by end of week phone.little chat about directions,both came to conclusion its to save courts time,spot on peter.to me it looked like the judges were just starting to fight back against banks with these directions and then oft stuck boot in.makes it all the more plain now,that banks could see the courts fighting back and so agreed to big case.tez

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can you post some more details pls Tez,

 

like claim number, directions exactly as they are on the form, judge name and court.

 

this will be of great use I am sure.

 

Peter

 

Sorry to have dissappeared on you Tez, you were doing fine, and I am now into a lengthly slog with BarclayCard - all is going as expected, but not in the main Bs forum as much now!

 

Go get 'em!

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Peter

 

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yes you did and darren hope you feel real guilty.lol.ok though, the saints been holding hand.good luck with barclay card.peter i posted the black typed bit of directions on post 414.is it ok just to leave a couple of days re case no ,judge etc,dont want anything winging it to court from bankers.even though its in black and white.changing minds seems to be ok for some.tez

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went to file judgement clerk said 10-14 working days

 

You might get lucky and have it stamped today.

 

 

little chat about directions

 

 

Did you ask her out for a drink ?

 

 

:cool: :cool:

I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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30 years younger and not married?phoned up to ask question later on about something different, got same girl,she said to ask for her , said it had been processed and it had been sent to bs,what form of transport i dont know.they did say they would try to do quick because of court date so close.tez happyly married

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30 years younger and not married?phoned up to ask question later on about something different, got same girl,she said to ask for her , said it had been processed and it had been sent to bs,what form of transport i dont know.they did say they would try to do quick because of court date so close.tez

 

Believe it or not they use second class post. No problem though, you dont want them to get it untill Christmas.

Which one of you is 30 years younger ?....

Shes telling you to ask for HER.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Wish you everything you wish yourself.

 

NatWest Claimed £1,639. Accepted £1,344.

Natwest Paid me again as GOGW £1,656. Yes they can have it back if they say please.

Barclays 1 Claimed £1,260. Won by default. Paid in full

Barclays 2 Claimed £2,378. Won by default. Paid in full

Birmingham Midshires. Claimed £2,122. Accepted £2,075.

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