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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Odd that bank staff are also doing this; aren't they required to have an account with the bank they work for, and be paid into that? Aren't they severely disciplined and/or fired if they go into the red?

 

So why would bank employees even be GETTING charges?

 

But still, good to hear that the shop floor staff agree with us and support us, despite the official claptrap they have to send us back in the post!!

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Maybelline; bank employees are usually permitted join at the discretion of the admin team... if they ask permission. However the Banks themselves are specifically excluded from joining as the forum rules exclude them. Unfortunately there's nothing to stop them READING the forum... as it's an open forum to get the maximum publicity. The terms and conditions of the site make it quite clear that for bank staff to enter this site is a breach of the Computer Misuse Act. In this way the banks cannot take anything they see here into court or into their negotiations with us... EVEN if they employ someone specially to read it, he can do nothing with what he finds here.

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(a) They are accessing data, but is it classed as 'data held in any computer'? I think a publicly accessible message board would not be included under that umbrella.

 

"Publicly Accessible" except that particular sections of humanity are specifically excluded in the authorising document. Just because you can see it clearly does not authorise you to look.

 

(b) Simply by you putting it in the T&Cs probably doesn't mean that it is really unauthorised. I would argue that it's a public message board, for anyone to read and have access to the data within. It could also be argued that the T&Cs only apply to members, so if a bank were to read the board without posting then it probably hasn't breached your rules anyway.

 

The Terms and Conditions are very clearly those of the website. They are directed at "users" of the website... which includes members, guests, admins, anyone.

 

© If banks do come across the site, but don't register, then in all probability they will not even read the T&Cs, so they may not know that you think their access is unauthorised. I may have this wrong, but doesn't it say that members should read the rules before posting?

 

Ignorance is no defence whatever to a breach of the Law. Never has been, never will be. Banks know this.

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WBF - what we're against is representatives of the bank acting in their official capacity using the information they find on this site either to influence their dealings with us or to influence the court's dealings with us during litigation.

 

People who happen to be paid by the banks, using this site for its legitimate purpose are more than welcome as long as they get the relevant permission from the site owners.

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