UKCPM Spycar PCN - Now Gladstones/PAPLOC - Trinity Park Roadways, Birmingham

[The Great Soprendo]

Afternoon all

 

Just been slapped with a Parking Charge Notice by CPM UK Car Park Management for a short stop on Trinity Park Roadways, Birmingham.

 

I pulled over for about 15 mins, while I took the dog out of the car for a much-needed pee.

 

While I was there I took a phone call.

 

I didn't notice any signs saying I couldn't pull over and stop and I didn't ever leave the car (my GF was sat inside the whole time)

 

I have video footage from my dash cam of me with my dog going for a pee. ( just dog peeing, not me)

 

Any advice would be welcome. Should I respond 'without prejudice' saying I am refusing to pay??

 

Thanks in advance

 

TGS

[The Great Soprendo]

Thanks to all for your responses. Just about to upload relevant info. 

 

1 Date of the infringement 27/9/19

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 2/10/19

 

3 Date received 7/10/19

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] Y

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Y

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] N

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N/A

 

7 Who is the parking company? CPM UK Car Park Management

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Trinity Park Roadways, Birmingham

 

 

 

PDF_Trinity2.pdf PDF Trinity.pdf

[The Great Soprendo]

Thanks, everyone. I sincerely appreciate your responses.

 

Yes, it was a little goon sat in his car. I was hoping to see him on my dashcam footage but it's not on there.

 

I'll upload some STreetview links now.

 

Thanks again

 

 

[The Great Soprendo]

9 minutes ago, Mrs O'Frog said:

Was he parked before you parked?

 

Yes, I think so. If it's the car I think it was. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was pulled up pretty much where the dark grey Ford Galaxy has stopped on the left

[The Great Soprendo]

Sorry! Amended with PDFs

Trinity 3.pdf Trinity 2.pdf Trinity 1.pdf

 

Just thought: I'll be driving that way again tomorrow, so will detour and get some pics. Hopefully I'll get Inspector Morse while I'm at it!

Obviously, I won't be stopping to take pics.

[The Great Soprendo]

18:01 to 18:05

 

[The Great Soprendo]

Thanks!

 

Makes for an interesting read. Well, sort of!

[The Great Soprendo]

Which means??

 

Excuse my ingnorance ...

[The Great Soprendo]

Thank you

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Sorry for  late reply. 

 

Yes, happy to pool resources. I’ll be passing there sometime next week to take some pics.

 

The girlfriend will drop me off so I can get some decent pics with my long lens. Hopefully the weasel will be there, too.

 

Did you manage to get anything yesterday??

[The Great Soprendo]

So where are we with this, guys?? 

 

Do we make contact and say we're not paying, or just wait for more letters to drop on the door mat?

 

Thanks again

[The Great Soprendo]

Thank you

Great work on the pics squirt

I haven’t had the chance to swing past in the last week but the next time I go to Shropshire I’ll be sure to get some pics.

will keep you all posted 

TGS

[The Great Soprendo]

I’ve not had anything else in the post but sure it will be on the way sooner or later. Following the advice kindly given on here ...

 

 

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Afternoon all

 

A quick update as I've been away for a while ...

 

As expected, received the £100 begging letter from CPM on 31st October.

 

As advised, I haven't responded yet and am waiting for the next communication from CPM

 

Will keep you posted of any updates ...

 

Thanks for all the help. Donation coming your way via Paypal!

[The Great Soprendo]

Just received the obligatory request from TRACE debt recovery ...

2020-01-07 12-19.pdf

[The Great Soprendo]

Afternoon all

 

Just received my 'FINAL DEMAND' letter from the lovely peeps at TRACE. 

As of yet, I've contacted no one, not even acknowledging their PCN.

 

Do I just sit tight from here?? Am tempted to wallop them with Aldridge Boy's account but fear this may backfire.

Any advice is appreciated!

[The Great Soprendo]

Hi all

 

Well, almost two years after this whole debate started, I've now been sent a Letter Before Claim from Gladstones, asking me to pay £170.

 

Is this the time to respond? 

 

Thanks in advance

 

TGS

[The Great Soprendo]

Thank you!

How does that look?

My address
Gladstones Solicitors
Unit B 1st Floor
210 Cygnet Court
Centre Park
Warrington
WA1 1PP
PCN No: xxxxx

Dear Sir,

Thanks for your “Letter Before Court’, dated 24th August 2021.

I see you’ve moved on from your local golf club premises.

Things must be looking up!

Well, where do I start? Congratulations on attempting to spin this debacle out for two years.

However, I’m afraid to inform you the buck’s stopping right here.

There is no debt because there was no breach of contract.

You know that and so do the Courts.

The clowns who run IPC are misleading their members over what is and isn't a parking contract.

Perhaps you should ask IPC for a copy of their ATA code of Practice, so you can see where the client’s actions prior to this demand falls well short of the code by which your client is supposed to abide.

I look forward to your deafening silence from now on but I'm sure that you will be able to get another £50 out of the gullible if you don't tell them I have responded to your LBC.

Yours sincerely

 

[The Great Soprendo]

Thanks for the response  FTMD

 

Good spot. It should be 'claim' not court. Thank you.

 

I did some research on Gladstones. It would appear Willy Wonka resigned back in 2018.

 

John Llewellyn Gladstone Davies is also a Director of company called Broadly Vertical, as well as a couple of others. I've alluded to it in the tweaked version, which I'll post up prior to sending.

Also, lots of info about Johnny Boy on the internet ...

 

Will also post up LBC Gladstone's letter in a few mins

 

Exposing the scams of the IAS, the IPC, and Gladstones, all run by William Hurley & John Davies

FORUMS.MONEYSAVINGEXPERT.COM

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Please excuse me as I know that much of the information that follows is common knowledge, but I thought I'd try to bring it all together under one thread and hopefully it will help to illustrate and expose the **** that are...

 

[The Great Soprendo]

 

Gladstones Solicitors.pdf

 

I possibly got a bit carried away with the letter? 

[The Great Soprendo]

Thanks for your input FTMD

I love unearthing stuff like this. I could really go to town with a bit more time. Often good when you discover their home address. Send em a shot from Streetview.

 

Gladstones' accounts BTW:

Screenshot 2021-09-09 at 13.09.13 2.pdf

Edited September 9, 2021 by The Great Soprendo

[The Great Soprendo]

Good call LFI

I've deleted the part in question and gone with Trustpilot reviews. You're spot on; they're bloody awful!

snotty letter

My address
Date
Gladstones Solicitors
Unit B 1st Floor
210 Cygnet Court
Centre Park
Warrington
WA1 1PP
PCN No: xxxxx
Dear John Llewellyn Gladstone Davies

Thanks for your ’Letter Before Claim’, dated 24th August 2021.

I see you’ve moved on from your local golf club premises. Things must be looking up! Broadly Vertical, perhaps?

Well, where do I start? Congratulations on attempting to spin this debacle out for two years.

However, I’m afraid to inform you the buck’s stopping right here.

There is no debt because there was no breach of contract.

You know that and so do the Courts.

The clowns who run IPC are misleading their members over what is and isn't a parking contract.

Perhaps you should ask IPC for a copy of their ATA code of Practice – after all, you wrote it.

Maybe then you can see where this whole façade falls apart; it’s well short of the code of conduct by which you’re all supposed to abide.

i look forward to trouncing any other correspondence you are daft enough to send in my direction.

In the highly unlikely event this case goes court, I will be asking for an unreasonable costs order under CPR
27.14(2)(g).

I must admit, Gladstones’ Trustpilot reviews make for an interesting read: 98% of the 42 reviews gave the
lowest possible score.

Have a look.

If my business attracted reviews of that nature, I’d seriously consider giving up!

And, btw, Patron Hallow also makes for an interesting follow.

You should check ‘em out.
Yours sincerely
Johnny Fartpants
*COPIED TO UKPCM

 

 

[The Great Soprendo]

Sorry folks, forgot to ask ...

... am I putting my name at the bottom of these letters before they're sent??

[The Great Soprendo]

I didn't understand a word of that, BN?! 

[The Great Soprendo]

Well, folks, the lovely people at Gallstones have sent me a response stating they note the content of my letter but 'your representations do not amount to a defence.' 

Also accompanied with the usual guff of imminent court proceedings and 14 days to pay etc.

That was 12 days ago by the date on the letter. (I work away from home).

Next move??

Thanks in advance

TGS