Minster Bay Watch/gladstones ANPR PCN PAPLOC - Overstay - Heslington Retail Park - York - YO10 5LA

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Morning Caggers.

Hope everybody is safe and well.

 

Ok will try to make this brief as possible ! 

Got an early xmas gift from Minster Bay watch in York while working on a site on a retail park, Vehicle overstayed max period (2 hours) .

 

had a short contract with the NHS delivering and installing IT equipment to one of their offices based on the retail park above one of the retail stores. The signage stated two hours max parking , spoke to receptionist who said he would put me on the exclusion list while I was there.

 

has me entering at 8.12 and exit at 15.00 ( to grab some lunch )  although I was there until 6.30pm at night still working.

in theory 8.12am till 18.30pm

 

To add into the mix the car I was driving was just purchased on the 7th Nov and the charge letter dated 10th Nov again in theory the transfer of ownership was not in my name then , I notice on letter it states we may have obtained your details from DVLA. I actually got the V5 today stating acquired vehicle on 7th Nov

 

in the letter column on left is as follows:

 

Charge notice no *****

Date of contravention - 10/11/2020

Vehicle reg - My current vehicle

Vehicle make - - Current vehicle

Vehicle model - Current vehicle 

Charge value - £100

Date of issue - 20th Nov 

Location - Heslington Retail Park - York - YO10 5LA

 

I have attached a pic of the main body of the letter they are of course offering a discount of £60 ....how jolly nice 

 

best course of action?  

 

1) Tell them I was driver\owner but working for the NHS with proof of site visit and exemption and lay it on thick about being NHS worker?  (although I imagine it won't make a difference) 

 

2) Deny all knowledge as technically I was not the owner at that point and ask them to prove it 

 

3) Totally ignore and wait for the toilet paper...sorry threat o grams?

 

I have now left that contract but still have my NHS badge as proof of employment

 

Thanks

NTD...

NTK.pdf

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Thanks for the advice so far. FTM Dave you may be correct for I did drive out and return same say.

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Ok quick update...I have been unable to speak to the NHS office about being on the white list and asking for ticket to be upheld with MB, everytime I get put through it says mailbox full so can only assume office has not been manned. 

during this time.

 

letter received today to say despite letters sent for lower amount of £60 and a follow up letter for amount of £100 ( never received) no payment has been received and no payment plan in place.

 

Now states notice passed to internal collections team, I assume that means more of the same letters only more strongly worded and threating..ha ha..

 

Need to pay the amount of £155 by the 4/1/2021 ( and I thought the mafia were great at extortion) 

 

If I do not pay full amount or agree a payment plan they will look to refer to litigation dept recommending legal proceedings etc etc.

 

If payment not received by said date it will be passed to an external debt collector.

 

I plan to keep trying the NHS office as it should be manned after the new year.

I will keep this thread updated in the meantime.

 

Any advice most welcome

 

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Happy new year all.

an update!

 

Spoke to the NHS office who kindly said they would speak to Minster the response was as follows:

 just heard back from the company, and the fine is not from our carpark but from the University.

 

I am really sorry but we are not able to help because it's a different company and Car park.

 

I am baffled now as to how this is related to the University ?

Unless these bays were specifically for University staff yet they are not marked as such and in a retail park miles out of the city centre...

 

On the day I did take a picture of the parking notice (as I dont trust these carparks) , close to the bays and will post up the terms and conditions.

 

See below..

just realised this is Ardpark based in Wetherby.

Why do I have a notice from Minster???

 

 

sign.pdf

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Fine is the wording received back from the NHS reception. Not sure if they misunderstood what was said to them. I clearly put in an email that is was a parking charge. Still baffled as to why this signage is close to the bay yet Minster have sent me the notice

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Will do thanks

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Please see attached 

1st notice - revised.pdf

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Of course...

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I can tell you the exact location. Best  and closest location is- Farmfoods store 

TOWER COURT

OAKDALE ROAD

York

YO30 4WL

Parked in first set of bays  directly opposite the main doors of Farmfood. On Google maps you will see a red stairwell just to the right, the NHS office is directly above Farmfoods. We hand to handle kit up those stairs and along the gantry hence parking in the closer bays.

Regis court entrance is along the gantry to the end this is where reception is and where we signed in with names and details etc.Checking on Google maps I can see there is no immediate signage on the walls or nearest lamp posts.

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Nope! Worked in the carpark for a number of hours , drove down road to grab lunch for 20 mins and drove back to same Bay. So got to bay at 13.00 that day left for 20 mins  around 15.00 I think , returned and worked till 19.00 all in the same day

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Bit of a blessing surely? Picture of number plate only not actual bay and an incorrect parking area. 

As stated only time I left the original bay was to travel a short distance up the road grab a meal from drive through and stay 20 mins just outside takeaway to eat it.. then returned back to original bay 

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Ok try this link - https://earth.google.com/web/search/YO30+4WL/@53.98571177,-1.10062658,12.95562615a,76.11070508d,35y,0.00000001h,44.99672882t,0r/data=CigiJgokCTSFuetIqkpAEXd7X9haYT9AGaffwNH3kE1AIWKSebZ3jE7A

 

The end bays where the cars are showing is where I was parked central in front of Farm foods entrance

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Thanks for that latest update. I reckon they are hoping each person just pays up once they receive a notice from these guys.

So far no further letters though I expect one from their DCA soon...at least I have something to burn to keep warm...

 

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AS with DX , I was not anyway near Heslington. I never left the retail park that day. As mentioned I did pick up some lunch just up the road. Will find the google earth location but only stopped in that bay for around 20 mins to eat before returning back to the original location 

 

okay the other location is here - https://earth.google.com/web/@53.99169199,-1.10574453,13.07497029a,72.13282641d,35y,0.00000001h,44.99670352t,0r

It is the red brick roof building next to KFC, on the road in front of the building you can see FUEL\ EXIT marked on the road in white, I was parked in the bay there and stayed for 20 mins to eat food, then returned back to original location.

So nowhere near Heslington. As DX pointed out the photo of my reg does not actually show me in a bay

 

So no connection to universities or similar and these bays are not marked as such

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Thanks for the great advice so far. I will send a link regarding the location of the signage 

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Apologies please find revised docs ...

Got to admire Gladstones numerical skills  on page three with their estimated costs oh and  laying it on thick about getting credit at a higher interest rate should I get a CCJ. Must be amazing to have such ability to see in to the future

 

PAPLOC.pdf

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Minster are seriously a bunch of muppets if they think they could secure a court win on what they have currently provided document wise...still i am not going to be complacent 

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Thanks for the update ..so send fob off letter recorded back to Gladstones?

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Dear Will and John...ha ha brilliant...will take a look now 

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Cheers Brassnecked ...going to go to town on this letter...ha 

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Ok here goes for a first draft...

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 Dear Will & John.

 

I must admit I was in awe of receiving a letter from your esteemed law firm thinking what have I done to deserve such an honour. Perhaps you have discovered a long lost relative has left me a fortune in a will and I could give up work to pursue my love of goat farming using the money to set up a small holding in the outer Hebrides producing fine cheese and goat hair sweaters. Alas no! In bold letters it stated Letter before action almost if one had to get ready for battle and my power ranger pyjamas will have to be on a boil wash first before I can even think about action.

Anyway I digress after further research I discovered this is in relation to some parking shenanigans of which I have no knowledge, so as the Private Parking world's best solicitors you should be aware, I know that you know a case isn't going anywhere on the facts as presented.

I may add that that not all is lost, as I used your letter to line the cat litter tray. Mr wiggles is most pleased with his firm and absorbent lining beaming happily away as he does his cat business before securing a warm spot in front of the fire as we sit down to watch cash in the attic.

Good luck with the soliciting business I hear it can be quite lucrative.

P.S – it is uncle Herbert who apparently left a fortune so if you do come across him please let me know…

 

 

 

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Thanks Honeybee...I await the regulars for more input 

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Many thanks..yes I did not want to give any indication that I was aware I had parked on the site at any point especially written down. That said I will keep the new entry in. Do I need to add their ref no etc at the top of the letter and or date of infringement? 

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Got it...Will post up the adjusted draft. 

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Thanks FTMdave...I shall take great delight in sending to them both..just finishing off ready to upload for a once over..