VCS Spycar PCN PAPLOC now Claimform - no stopping - London Southend Airport ***Claim Dismissed***

[Tom Price]

Hi All,

 

Hope I am not too late to get some ideas on how to progress.. I have already made 2 Appeals, both rejected unfortunately.

 

Please see attachments: Here is an over view of the story so far:

Doc 1 - Parking Charge Notice [PCN] Received .. Came in out of the Blue..

Doc 2 - Appeal 1 & 2 On-Line Attachment .. Got this from [removed -dx].. Formal Challenge Document etc.. 

Doc 3 - Appeal 1 On-Line Text .. not a lot of choice on the drop downs.. the Driver told me this is what happened .. 

Doc 4 - VCS Appeal 1 Response .. Wanting the Drivers name .. Appealed again..

Doc 5 - Appeal 2 On-Line Text .. Beefed the Appeal up.. refused to give drivers name of course.. 

Doc 6 - VCS Appeal 2 Response .. still offering me a discount down to 60 Pound.. but telling me to appeal to IAS

 

Should I Appeal to IAS?.. going by what I have read I would expect it will be Rejected...

 

Looking forward to hearing any Advice..

 

Thanks & Regards

 

[Tom Price]

Thanks for the response Dave.. I've been reading those... interesting to say the least.. 

[Tom Price]

1 Date of the infringement : 16/08/2019

 

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] : 23/08/2019

 

3 Date received : 27/08/2019

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] NO

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? YES - Images From CCTV Footage

 

6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] : Yes - Attached

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up : Yes - Attached

 

7 Who is the parking company? : VCS

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Southend Airport, Essex SS2 6YF

 

docs1.pdf

[Tom Price]

Crunch time coming soon on this PCN. 

 

Appeal To IAS by October 19th or pay £60 by 26th October.

 

As I have appealed twice already, I feel like appealing a 3rd time to see what happens..

 

My wife thinks if I don't pay we will have burly men in a white van appearing at the front door to take the TV away.

 

I am not going to pay so I will post the threat letters etc on here as they come in.

 

My friend has also received the same fine for Southend Airport..

he has appealed once but failed.

 

He is waiting to see how mine unfolds.

He has a Business so I really hope these threats of court if not paid are just hot air..

 

Does this forum know if anyone has been taken to Court for a PCN at Southend Airport? 

 

When the inevidable threats start...

is there text available to threaten them back with legal action etc?

 

Thanks In Advance

Tom.

 

[Tom Price]

Thanks dx... will wait to see what happens..

[Tom Price]

Hello.. well the next letter has come in as expected.. Lots of Red & Capitals. Still not paying... 

TP_VCS DEMAND LETTER 01.11.2019.pdf

[Tom Price]

Thanks for your comments.. much appreciated.. I can imagine their bully boy tactics work on a lot of people.. really poor that they still get away with this..

 

Regards Tom

[Tom Price]

Hi all, the expected next letter has arrived... more & more Court threats etc.. etc... still cant believe this is Legal.. lets see what comes next.... 

Final Demand_15.11.2019_VCS.pdf

[Tom Price]

Just an update.. Final Payment was due 19.11.2019. Its now 18 days since then and no letters or mails. Not sure if they have given up or are spending time thinking on other ways to threaten... Thanks for following this and I hope it helps anyone else facing the same issues..

 

Rgds Tom

[Tom Price]

Hi all.. LBC received today.. I love the last page.... the Financial Statement.. As if.. so not quite the LBA, I guess that may be next.. I don't really want to communicate with these people.. any recommendations?

 

Thanks Tom,

VCS_LBC_Part_1_05_12.2019.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

[Tom Price]

Thanks for the comments

.. not sure where I go from here..

 

Is it just a letter I send back..

 

happy to send an EB if I can have the link..

 

Do i need to fill in their crappy form?

 

[Tom Price]

thanks for the response all.. i'll get a letter ready and post a copy of it..any one have some examples I can add to the above suggestions..?

Edited December 13, 2019 by Tom Price

[Tom Price]

Something like this: "Not Sent Yet"...

 

Dear Legal 'Experts' your photographic 'evidence' shows my vehicle is clearly moving so not stopped, parked or stationery in any form.

Please explain how you think you would win a Court Claim based on that?

Both myself & my Lawyer are fully aware of “THE LONDON SOUTHEND AIRPORT BYELAWS 1997”.

If you really think there is a case to answer to please go ahead and waste your money, but I expect you to pay my costs within the time ordered unlike your other lost claims.

[Tom Price]

Short & Sweet.. thanks for the feedback.. I really wanted to cane them with all sorts of abuse.. but I am not going to feed them ammunition.. I wanted to start it.. "Dear Bunch Of ….

 

Your Reference: VCS

To Whom It May Concern:

 

Dear Legal 'Experts', your photographic 'evidence' shows my vehicle is clearly moving so not stopped, parked or stationery in any form. 

I am fully aware of “THE LONDON SOUTHEND AIRPORT BYELAWS 1997”.

If you really think there is a case to answer to please go ahead and waste your money, but I expect you to pay my costs within the time ordered unlike your other lost claims.

 

 

[Tom Price]

Nice spot.. cheers

 

[Tom Price]

Decide to keep it simple & to the point.. let them think about it... and how their game is sussed as Brass put it..

 

Dear Simple Simon and associated Legal experts,

I am fully aware of “THE LONDON SOUTHEND AIRPORT BYELAWS” 1997.

If you really think there is a case to answer to please go ahead and waste your money, but I expect you to pay my costs within the time ordered unlike your other lost claims.

[Tom Price]

Sent.. lets hope they get the message.. 

Edited December 21, 2019 by Tom Price

[Tom Price]

Just an update.. Deadline to pay was 4th of January. Not had any letters come through. Still a chance they are mulling it over... 

 

Rgds Tom

[Tom Price]

Hi all, Received a Claim Form today.. [See Attached] The form looks like the same Font etc that VCS Parking use. Reminds me of a Kangaroo Court.. Are we sure it's official or it is run by Renshaw-Smith?

 

I don't see how anyone would get a fair hearing form an On-Line court. Seems like its just a formality..................

 

Be good to get some advice on how I proceed with this.. smells like a Rat!

 

Rgds Tom

 

[Tom Price]

Thanks Dave. Perhaps someone has a good defence text I can use as an example.. I should submit a counter claim for putting up with all the BS...

[Tom Price]

I had planned to log the defence on-line... and get some hints so my defence is strong..

Name of the Claimant ? Vehicle Control Services - Simon Renshaw-Smith

Claimants Solicitors: Not Stated, but had previous Letters from Jake Burgess in their Litigation Department

Date of issue –  10th February 2020

 

What is the claim for – 

 

1.The Claim is for a breach of contract for breaching the terms and conditions set on private land- The Defendant's vehicle, xXXx was identified in the Southend Airport on the 16/08/2019 in breach of the advertised terms and conditions; namely stopping in a zone where stopping is prohibited.

 

2.At all material times the Defendant was the registered keeper and/or driver.

 

3.The terms and conditions upon entering private land were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent locations. The sign was the offer and the act of entering private land was the acceptance of the offer hereby entering into a contract by conduct.

 

4.The signs specifically detail the terms and conditions and the consequences of failure to comply, namely a parking charge notice will bs issued, and the Defendant has failed to settle the outstanding liability.

 

5.The Claimant seeks the recovery of the parking charge notice, contractual costs and interest.

 

What is the value of the claim?£185.00

 

Has the claim been issued by the Private parking Company or was the PCN assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim ? Private Parking Company - VCS

 

Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? N/A

 

PS.. I have attached all of the documents etc in different posts as I received them..

 

Thanks

Tom

[Tom Price]

Thanks DX.. quick question if I may.. do is send the CPR 31:14 to them by mail or can i attach it on the defence on the MCOL site?

[Tom Price]

Roger that.. so i send a CPR 31:14 to VCS now..

 

Roger that.. I get it now.. thanks for your help..

[Tom Price]

thanks for the info.. Acknowledged the Service & sent the CPR31:14. Can't wait for the next chapter

 

[Tom Price]

Hi all, as expected, no documents have come back.. its getting close to the time to file my defence. I have had a look around the site but am not sure what I should use..

 

Any ideas will be greatly appreciated..