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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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you havent appealed and they are telling you this.

They are doing so because that way they can claim that the protocols havent been followed by you and they dont have to consider anything or give you a POPLA code.

 

The thrust of the argument Mark was given was that the signage isnt a contract but one that is prohibitive in nature this menas that ther can be no "performance" by the parking co ( they cant actually offer you anything as a consideration- ie) park here and pay us £90) and since they dont own the land they have to interest in trespass or disobdience.

 

Mark is also a fellow Villa fan so if you support Birmingham City you will be on your own!

Mind you that is normal for St Andrews.

Lonliest job in the world? cleaner at City trophy room.

 

Back to business,

as you have read his thread you will realise that it is a long haul,

not a short hop so advice is wait and see what they send out next rather than be in a rush to waste a tree writing letters that get ignored.

 

 

Ultimately you will be telling them there is no contract and they know it and yoi know thay have been here before and they will be throwing good money after bad in a pointless pursuit if they continue but let them get to a point where they are forced to accept that you arent going to play nicely first.

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AS said on all threads in any forum section,

you ignore dca's as they have no powers or rights at all.

 

 

Ask yourself why the sum has gone up to £160?

Did you sign a credit agreement with them? No, so they cant lawfullly demand any more than the contracted fee, assuming the debt was real in the first place.

 

 

They rely on people being ignorant on the difference between bailiffs and debt collectors. DR+ are the parking indstry pet rentathreats and can be iognored totally.

 

Keep letting them waste their money.

If you get a letter from BWlegal or Gladstones soliciotors come back here as you will need to respond but up until that point the letters are harmless.

EB (from Handsworth)

 

Thanks ericsbrother and apologies for the delay in responding. I have been away on holiday and just got back to another letter now from a Debt Recovery company with the 'fine' now totally £160 plus the addition of a couple of threats. I would be very grateful for your advice.

 

Btw, my family home is a stone's throw away from the Villa and I used to deliver newspapers to the football club. Do I qualify?

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Typical c**p from these drips.

stating that if you don't respond to their bumf they will take that to mean you are not contesting that you were the driver.

What planet are they on?

 

The last ones to decide who would be the driver is a bunch of no hopers like DRP who are not even regulated.

 

And the Beavis case doesn't apply in your situation either but these numpties keep using it regardless of how appropriate it is.

 

Do they really think that people are stupid enough to pay them £160

 

funny how with all the advice they give on these letters they fail to mention how to report them to the FCA for breach of debt collection guidelines

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If they were serious about all of this they would explain where the sum of £160 comes from.

 

 

As it is just an amount they have generated believing that being less then £200 most people will pay it

then that, along with the fact they arent registered with the FCA as licenced deposit takers should tell you the merits of their letter.

 

In short all dca's are rentathreats and can do nothing themselves other than make a noise and send scary letters

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they are saying that of you dont pay their clients their clients may well do something that has nothing to do with them and then list a load of scary things that arent actually how the world works.

 

There is also that word, IF.

IF they do this or that,

IF they win etc.

 

Zenith arent going to write to you and tell you that if you dont pay up their client may well lose money over this so please feel sorry for them and pay up beacuse they have a number of cute fluffy animals to look after and they would all be taken into care if you dont pay.

 

The next letter wont threaten to harm those cute fluffy animals because you are a meany either.

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this letter is of no relevance whatsoever,

picking at a couple of things

- if you owe parkwatch £100 why would you be instructed by their solicitors to pay a dca £160?

 

If you understand that DR+ have no third party interest it makes it most odd that a solicitor will be working in their clients best interests by making you give your money to a complete stranger.

 

You could have a lot of fun expaining to Will and John why you arent going to pay

but they wont care that you know they are wrong,

they are too arrogant and greedy to care about their professional reputation or even the law.

 

After all, what would a solicitors have to do with the law?

Ignore this and if you get a letter before action or letter before claim come back here as it will need responding to.

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