Parking Charge from Vehicle control Services do I pay? help please

[sean miller]

Hello all

 

I went on holiday in my car to Wales last Easter with my Friend and her Grandkids one of who is disabled.

 

 

Had a lovely time but I got A demand for a parking fine in October for 80 pounds.

It included a photo of my car in two different positions. It said I had parked for two hours.

 

It looks to me as if I had parked there earlier to pop in the shop

and then later to pop in the shop on my way back

and they are saying I was there the whole time.

 

 

I can remember the days we went to the beach and we paid any parking charge.

Otherwise i had stopped for 2 minutes at different places to pop in shops.

I cannot remember seeing any signage OR PARKING machine

 

Looking at threads on different websites they all seemed to advise not to reply and not to pay.

One site lists the different letters which they send and I have reieved eactly those letters so far.

We have got to the letter where the bogus debt recovery firm is threatening to advise the VCS to take me to court.

 

I notice that more recent advice is not to ignore but not necessarily to pay.

I dont want to lose my credit rating its taken me a long time to get it back up.

but I think it is unfair that they send me a charge six months after the fact

when I cannot remember where i was or what I was doing.

 

 

Also I will not have receipts to show I was in the shop.

The charge rose to £200 and has now dropped to £140 if I pay in a certain time frame.

 

 

They threaten I will get bad credit.

What is the latest advice it seems unfdair to treat people like this Its very worrying should I pay?

take them to court?

what if I lose?

will I get bad credit for fighting it in court?

 

Advice would be appreciated Thanks Seany

Edited February 16, 2016 by sean miller
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[FTMDave]

Forum users more knowledgeable than me will be on tomorrow, and they will want to know what communications you have received from the parking company.

 

From your post, it seems you had no communications until debt collectors sent you begging letters. Is that really so? No ticket on windscreen? No Notice To Keeper letter from the parking company? You mention other letters, from who?

 

Oh, and it's not a fine. This is not the police or the council. It's a private parking company who are trying it on. The experts tomorrow will help you against these crooks.

 

If in the meantime if you can post a timeframe of what happened and PDFs of communications received (with your details blanked out), even better.

Edited February 16, 2016 by FTMDave

[dx100uk]

I suspect this is a miss timed ANPR camera capture over 2 visits

so they are being rather cheeky by trying it on.

 

 

if its that old , then it extremely doubtful that they'll attempt court

and it would be easy to defend anyway.

 

 

who's the willy waving DCA? the rossers.

 

 

and no it cant effect your credit file

its NOT a debt

its a speculative invoice

 

 

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?456024-Rossendales-collect-vehicle-control-services-robin-hood-airport-pcn

 

 

if you've never received any previous letters

the VCS are out of time for want of a better word

[sean miller]

Forum users more knowledgeable than me will be on tomorrow, and they will want to know what communications you have received from the parking company.

 

From your post, it seems you had no communications until debt collectors sent you begging letters. Is that really so? No ticket on windscreen? No Notice To Keeper letter from the parking company? You mention other letters, from who?

 

Oh, and it's not a fine. This is not the police or the council. It's a private parking company who are trying it on. The experts tomorrow will help you against these crooks.

 

If in the meantime if you can post a timeframe of what happened and PDFs of communications received (with your details blanked out), even better.

 

Hi thanks for the reply

I meant to say I had recieved several letters from VCS

the last one being the dodgy debt collecting agency informing me they will advise court action if i failed to pay

 

 

The first was in October 2015 with phots of the car in two different positions

and timed as though I had been there three hours in the same place.

 

 

The last letter was last week

[ericsbrother]

the last letter was last week- what letter and who from?

VCS are pretty rubbish at their job so on the face of it easily battede away but we would like to know how far things have got so we can tell you what to do next, even if that is to continue ignoring them.

[sean miller]

The letter I recieved last week was from an Agency called DRP or Debt Recovery Plus Location Panty Branner Abersoch which is where the alleged parking occured. Other correspondence was from Vehicle Control Services LTD and initially in the first letter in October demanded £80 which went up and went down again for the last letter. They say in the letter they are lowering the charge to comply with "pre action Protocol"

 

Thank you for your ongoing interest and support

 

Sean

[ericsbrother]

You can ignore any letter from a dca

give the date of the letter from VCS where they have dropped the amount claimed back to the original £80 and say whether this is more recent than the DR+ letter

to really get to grips with things we ned to knw the whole story in chronological order so start at the beginning with place, date and times.

then when exactly did you get the first demend from VCS?

Did you respnd to it?

what other letters have you received and when? exact dates not so important for these

[sean miller]

I just received another letter from Zenith Collections this time.

 

 

It is marked Notice of Debt recovery assignment

 

 

They inform me "without prejudice" that I owe 160 quid to VCS

they tell me that Zenith are now responsible fore the debt

and are prepared to accept a reduced sum of £79 to save the expence of court fees.

 

I must pay in 14 days they inform me or the fee with revert back to 160 quid

 

Time table of incident and demands

 

Incident occurred allegedly 28/04/15 in Abersoch Wales

I dont know where the place is but it wasnt a car park i spent time in

 

 

I did get tickets when I parked for any time anywhere.

 

 

As I have stated elsewhere I think they photographed me twice

when I stopped to gho to the shop on my way out for the day and on my way back.

They state I was there for four hours

 

First demand letter October 28 2015 from VCS showing two photographs of car in two different positions asking for£80.00 for parking and not paying for a ticket

 

There followed six letters one every couple of weeks until the recent letter from Debt Recovery plus and the one I opened today from Zenith mentioned above

 

I havent responded to any letters

 

 

Thank you

Sean

Edited February 25, 2016 by sean miller
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[dx100uk]

any you don't start now.

 

 

as post 7

 

 

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[armadillo71]

Read the small print at the bottom of the letter. Who owns zenith?

 

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/aLgmKnAD2uXFxkfBdpFM_Y25NY0/appointments

 

Ignore them.

 

What you must not ignore is a real LBA from VCS or their solicitor.

 

If you had come here after the initial NTK we could have written an appeal, but as these are members of the IPC then you would probably ended up where you are now.

 

VCS do not use the POFA so there is no keeper liability, but work on the assumption that the RK is the driver.

[ericsbrother]

follow the advice above your post, IGNORE ANY DCA they dont own the debt so they have no say in any of it. Ask yourself when did you sign a credit agreement that means these bandits are entitled to charge you £160 for anything?