Claimant Commitment Advice for Universal Credit

[jasta11]

Regarding the '35 hour a week jobsearch' that's just a figure the wonderful JC have dreamt up as a way of threatening people - they wouldn't have the time nor man (person?) power to enforce it anyway and they know it. They're just basically saying that if they think you're cracking along on your own okay then fine but if they think you need 'encouragement' then they can ask more of you which will naturally take more of your time. As long as you're doing what's on your CC and it's a reasonable amount then the time taken doesn't matter.

 

If you do a search in this forum you'll find a thread I started a while ago on CC which contains extracts from the JC advisers own CC training course - which they'll all have gone through - that clearly states that quality of jobsearch is paramount and that if a person has fulfilled all the requirements of their CC in a lesser time then this is perfectly acceptable. Naturally they don't want us to know any of this or their threats won't work

 

If you want the full JC advisers classroom course and notes on CC then it's downloadable from here;

 

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/claimant_commitment_4

 

A lot to read but well worth it as you'll be as wise as they are - I slapped the whole lot down on the desk when I had my first CC appointment and the adviser looked rather worried that a customer had a full copy of her training course. I actually went away with a very simple CC as, having the guidance there, I was in a position to challenge everything she said. Give it a read through; it'll definitely help.

 

(Thanks to Citizen B for her help in resetting my account after I lost my password and original email address)

Edited February 3, 2015 by honeybee13
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[jasta11]

As I've said before, DWP staff who fail to apply and follow clear guidelines should be made examples of; they're public servants committing fraud - and 'fraud' is exactly what it is if they've conspired to deprive someone of their rightful income by lying, intimidation and falsifying evidence.

 

Mass prosecutions and sackings of offenders might make the rest take note and play fairly. I rarely hear of any DWP staff being dismissed as a result of their actions. When I worked for the DHSS back in the 70's it was impossible to be sacked for anything - and I worked with some really incompetent idiots Harshest action ever taken was to transfer them to another office. Nobody ever got sacked, no matter what they did.

 

Think of how much more dangerous such people are now, with this Government's hare-brained schemes and policies.

[jasta11]

Many people that I worked with who were totally incompetent were in fact transferred and most were promoted!!

 

Yes, that was the order of the day when I was there too. In fact, when I was at school my old maths teacher used to tell us 'If you don't stop messing about in class you're going to end up in the Ministry!' In my case she was dead right No cases of high treason in my office but I recall many cases of people coming back to work drunk after a lunchtime 'session' and being put at the back of the office to sort mail well away from the eyes of any passing HEO's.

 

A different world then; totally un-pc and all the better for it.

[jasta11]

You have described them as incompetent idiots.

 

It was actually me who described them thus in my post #12, if you check back, so you must be annoyed with me too?

 

I stand by my statement; it's hard for anyone who didn't work there at the time to appreciate just exactly what it was like in the Civil Service - it was absolutely a world unto itself in every way. None of it would be allowed these days and probably quite rightly too.