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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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Someone should send them details of this site for future reference.

 

Well, I could. But should I?

 

I wanted to complain to someone because I was infuriated by AK’s disgraceful lack of business ethics. Trading Standards was suggested as the main repository for such complaints.

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However, TS have variously referred some complainants to Consumer Direct, the FSA, the DTI, the FOS and Uncle Tom Cobley. In that respect I suppose I did well to get a response at all.

 

Stiffnuts, perhaps you would confirm that complaints regarding the behaviour of DCAs should indeed be directed at Trading Standards? Or are we barking up the wrong tree?

 

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I'm with you BL. There must be many of us who have little or no knowledge of the arcane laws and regulations which these guys are delving into. I'm bewildered by the information (some of it contradictory) which is piling up in this and other threads.

 

Are we anywhere near a summary, which you could all agree on, which clearly states what is and what isn't required?

 

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As a very interested reader of this thread Stiffnuts, I for one am increasingly turned off by your pugnaciousness, arrogance and rudeness. I find it increasingly difficult to read the useful content of your posts because it is increasingly blanketed in bile.

You would help not only the members of this forum, but yourself as well, if you would just calm down a bit and engage in reasoned discussion rather than personalised rant.

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