Supervising a learner driver with an EU license

[Cueshark]

Hi,

 

My girlfriend is Polish and she has held a full driving license for 11 years. However she has only transferred her license to the UK very recently and now has a full uk license.

 

On the government website it says you can accompany a learner driver if they "have had (and still have) a full licence in the same category as the vehicle you’re driving, for 3 years"

 

But another site says,

 

Q: My supervising driver has lost or misplaced their licence, can I still drive on a provisional licence with them sitting next to me if insured on the car?

A: As long as your are sure that the supervising driver next to you has held a full UK licence for over 3 years in the category of vehicle you are driving. Then you are legally OK.

 

This implies that she would have to have had her UK license for 3 years so she can not supervise me.

 

I'm more inclined to go with the .gov site on this matter which tells me that she can supervise me, but I wondered if anyone else has any insight on the matter. I'm pretty sure she can supervise me but I need to be 100% sure.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cueshark

[renegadeimp]

Full UK licence for 3 years is the key here. Your GF hasnt got that. The .gov details really need to be amended to be more specific. Theres a fair few complaints that its too ambiguous.

[Cueshark]

Yeah but that contradicts other sources.

 

Like this for example, from a .gov page.

 

Learners driving a car MUST hold a valid provisional licence. They MUST be supervised by someone at least 21 years old who holds a full EC/EEA licence for that type of car (automatic or manual) and has held one for at least three years.

Laws MV(DL)R reg 16 & RTA 1988 sect 87

 

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

Yeah but that contradicts other sources.

 

Like this for example, from a .gov page.

 

Learners driving a car MUST hold a valid provisional licence. They MUST be supervised by someone at least 21 years old who holds a full EC/EEA licence for that type of car (automatic or manual) and has held one for at least three years.

Laws MV(DL)R reg 16 & RTA 1988 sect 87

 

 

That is correct and is explicit: to supervise a driver in possession of Provisional Licence the supervisor Must have a full UK driving licence for the correct group and Must have held for at least 3 years.

 

 

People have come "unstuck" when the "supervisor" has a licence for automatic transmission vehicle only as they cannot supervise a provisional licence hold in a manual transmission vehicle.

[Cueshark]

"full EC/EEA licence".

 

From above.

 

Polish or UK is fine it seems?

[BRIGADIER2JCS]

"full EC/EEA licence".

 

From above.

 

Polish or UK is fine it seems?

 

 

The EC/EEA licence must be current.

[king12345]

Hi cueshark, can I please use your experience to answer a question nobody can?

On your gf uk driving license, is there any indication that she's had a driving license for 11 years, or does it look like she just passed the test?

I ask this because if there's no mentioning of how long she's had a driving license, her insurance would consider her a new driver and of course pump up the premium.

I've been in the same limbo for the past 25 years and never converted my eu license (I know that up to a couple of years ago it was compulsory) but it will expire in 2016 and I don't know wether it's best to convert to uk or keep the eu.

Please let me know if there's anything in the converted uk license to show that she's passed her test 11 years ago.

Thanks

[Cueshark]

Yes there is.

 

On the back of her UK license there is a table of vehicles.

 

B and B1 Vehicles have the date of 04.04.03 which is when she passed her test in Poland.

[DragonFly1967]

Sorry to be picky, but it's licenCe and not license lol

 

As your GF's licence shows that she passed her test in 2003, it will be absolutely fine for her to supervise you, as per your quote in post #3

[king12345]

Sorry to be picky, but it's licenCe and not license lol

 

 

 

As your GF's licence shows that she passed her test in 2003, it will be absolutely fine for her to supervise you, as per your quote in post #3

It's this stupid Microsoft autocomplete!

Thanks a million Cueshark, this will save me having to deal with the incompetence of the Italian embassy.

[DragonFly1967]

this will save me having to deal with the incompetence of the Italian embassy.

 

Now I'm really confused. She was Polish at the start of the thread

[king12345]

Now I'm really confused. She was Polish at the start of the thread

Sorry for the confusion.

I have an Italian licence, the op gf is polish

[Cueshark]

No worries.

 

; )

[oleg]

It would be illegal for any EU state to discriminate against another in terms of recognition of documents.

 

Having to register gay marriage certificates from outside Italy is seriously upsetting some commune officials, but they have no option.

[king12345]

It would be illegal for any EU state to discriminate against another in terms of recognition of documents.

 

 

 

Having to register gay marriage certificates from outside Italy is seriously upsetting some commune officials, but they have no option.

 

Bunch of bigots claiming to be Christian

[king12345]

Hi Cueshark, last question:

On the converted UK licence, do you see the same expiry date of the Polish licence or is it valid until the 65 birthday like all other UK licences?

My Italian licence needs renewing every 10 years and my current one expires in 2016.

Would this expiry date be on the UK licence if I convert it or I can then benefit from the licence until I'm 65?

Thanks

[DragonFly1967]

Your licence will be valid until the day before your 70th birthday

 

If you opt for an exchange licence, you'll have to also submit a new photo, and the photo will be valid for 10 years (that's the bit that expires, not the licence itself). So if you exchanged your Italian licence for a UK one in 2016, your photo (and UK licence) will then be valid until 2026 (or the day before your 70th birthday, whichever comes first).

[king12345]

Your licence will be valid until the day before your 70th birthday

 

 

 

If you opt for an exchange licence, you'll have to also submit a new photo, and the photo will be valid for 10 years (that's the bit that expires, not the licence itself). So if you exchanged your Italian licence for a UK one in 2016, your photo (and UK licence) will then be valid until 2026 (or the day before your 70th birthday, whichever comes first).

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So they don't consider the expiry date of the Italian licence.

Good!