Unable to pay at petrol station

[postggj]

The only offense that you possibly could be charged with would be deliberate refusal to pay or drive off

 

Having no money to pay for petrol is a civil offense

 

You just need to have valid ID such as a driving licence. A reasonable approach would be to give you 24 hours to return and pay

 

They cannot stop you from leaving or impound your vehicle

 

The reason for this is that franchised garages have a policy where they will deduct shortages fro the cashiers wages. i do not know if this is still common practice though

 

Just leave your name and address, it might be wise when you leave the petrol station to call the police non emergency number and tell them what you have done, just in case the cashier reports it as bilking

[postggj]

Yes, send shell your complaint

 

when you get the official response, rub the garage owners nose in it and ask for an explanation

[postggj]

I think you would have been ok.

 

My initial thought was making off without payment as per the Theft Act 1978 but in the case of R v Allen the House of Lords said that in order for the offence to be committed there must be "an intention to permanently deprive" by making off and that a mere "intention to defer" payment is not sufficient.

 

Mens rea and Actus reus

[postggj]

It is not fair that greedy garage franchise operators put in the contracts of employment that they will be liable for any losses

 

Drive offs are a police issue and courts to make compensation orders for restitution

 

Not hit the poor cashier all the time on minimum wage

[postggj]

you are missing the point in all of this

 

A person commits a crime only if they have the relevant criminal state of mind at the time of committing the criminal act

[postggj]

see post 12

[postggj]

That is not your decision to make if the OP will return or not, you have his details, its a civil matter as he had no intention of depriving the garage, or he would not have left his contact details

[postggj]

Thanks. Do you suffer from some form of Latin based tourettes?

 

I hated it at school, and i hate it now, but i have no choice

 

At least the internet lets you know an audible option of how to pronounce the words correctly

 

Its a dead language and should stay dead

Edited April 17, 2013 by squaddie

[postggj]

If they leave their details with a promise to pay and don't

 

That is obtaining a pecuniary advantage and fraud, a police matter and reported to the police where the courts will deal with it

 

Be it the cashier thinks the person is honest or not is irrelevant in the eyes of the law.

 

The cashier cannot detain the individual or his property without statutory reason, assigning chattels against a debt went out of the statute book years ago

[postggj]

phoning the police saying a crime has been committed when it has not is a criminal offence in its self, the cashier needs to be made aware of that

[postggj]

Dum schola Latina docetur miserabile fere sola filios experientia (Barbari vero descenderunt ad nos collem sagittandi - indigestamque amet), solum illa quae non intelligunt Latino credere debet de sua miseria. Considerans circa scientias non sine summa linguae usu. Et non inmemor Anglorum iuris (OK, fortasse non tam bonum exemplum;))

 

I agree, not a good explanation or example