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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

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Last year I bought a washing machine from Comet, about a mile from my house. They delivered it on time but it didn't work properly.

 

I had to phone a national rate 0870 number to get hold of the local branch, and was put on hold for 8 minutes, listening to their latest offers whilst waiting to be put through to the natinal call centre, who would then route the call to my branch. The call took a total of 17 minutes, all at national rate.

 

OK the call still only cost me pennies, but mutiply that by a million calls a month or whatever and that's a nice little profit (companies use 0870 numbers because they get paid up to 3p per minute of every call).

 

What really riled me was that I was phoning to report a fault and PAYING to listen to their adverts!

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The problems with the faulty goods were sorted easily. I do now use saynoto0870, and also got myself an 0871 number, mostly to stop sales calls where application forms require you to add a contact phone number.

 

This cost me £9.99, cost 10p a minute to dial and pays me 3p a minute from the first minute. Unfortunately since my last hard drive crashed, I no longer have the bookmark to the site I got it from and have no idea who the supplying company was! Worth it though, it definately cuts down the sales calls - those you do get, just keep them talking!

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Do you still have this running, have you got any details atall a name when tehy send you your readies lol! 1st 3p a minute that will do me.

100 minutes a month pays for my internet lol

 

jules xx

 

Found it!

 

http://www.uk2numbers.co.uk/

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Hmmm, I'm a bit puzzled by this because I thought that 0870 numbers are already the same as national rates if phoned from a landline.

 

What annoys me is that if you have a PAYG or contract mobile with inclusive ("free", as they wrongly call them) minutes you can't phone an 0870 number using your inclusives, you have to pay the full rate which may be up to 40p a minute.

 

The other thing is local companies (e.g. Comet) forcing you to pay a national rate number, using the pathetic excuse that the "call has to be routed through their national call centre". No it doesn't, just give us the number of the local branch, that's who we want to be connected to in the first place!

 

Even my local (Blackpool) Citizens Advice Bureau have started using an 0870 number (so it's actually cheaper for me to phone Preston, 20 miles away, at local rate).

 

The C.A.B. said that as the service is free and run by volunteers it was basically their way of raising a few extra funds, my argument is it is not free if you are forced to contribute. I don't mind too much, it's a valuable service, but the point is valid and what they are doing (forcing you to contribute via the profits from the 0870 number) is probably illegal too.

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