ACS:Law copyright file sharing claims, Gallant Macmillan - and probably some others along the way...

[Goldy001]

I think that most wouldn't pay, if the file isn't on your computer and you have no knowledge of the download then why should you pay! Trouble is how hard are they going to try, how may letters are you going to get? No one needs the stress caused by this, its just so wrong!!!

I think maybe hang on, i think the SRA are investigating..

[White-Dragon]

Thanks, i will prepare an LOD and hang fire to see what happens over the next week or so. I will not be bullied into handing over my hard earned money to a company accusing me of doing something I have categorically not done or authorised anyone else to do. Can anyone else who has recieved letters from Gallant Macmillan get in touch and let me know how you intend to deal with this outrageous situation. Cheers

[MeepMeep]

I have been watching this thread with great interest after my disabled mother received one of these Gallant Macmillan letters asking for £350 for uploading 'Anthems Electronic 80s', or whatever it was called. She is adamant not to have downloaded the material and frankly when the alledged offence took place at around 4 in the morning, there is absolutely no chance it was me.

 

She is not in the slightest bit intimidated and plans to ignore the letter altogther, whereas I want to send a LOD. Is it not possible that responding when so many people seem to have binned their letters could simply draw further unwanted attention to our case? Forgive me but I don't have much experience with these matters.

 

I am much more peeved than my mother because I gladly and regularly spend my hard earned cash on music and to come after the people like us seems so horribly unfair. We are about as far from 'persistent offenders' as they come but how on Earth are we meant to prove that?

[stupiditto]

What with all the money they are paying theses people.

 

I think that most wouldn't pay, if the file isn't on your computer and you have no knowledge of the download then why should you pay! Trouble is how hard are they going to try, how may letters are you going to get? No one needs the stress caused by this, its just so wrong!!!

I think maybe hang on, i think the SRA are investigating..

 

As I said I spoke to the SRA the other day and they are under investigation. the more people that ring up will give them a bigger case.

 

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She is not in the slightest bit intimidated and plans to ignore the letter altogther, whereas I want to send a LOD. Is it not possible that responding when so many people seem to have binned their letters could simply draw further unwanted attention to our case? Forgive me but I don't have much experience with these matters.

 

I was told by the SRA that they are under investigation but they are still operating so the letter they sent you is still a LEGAL document.

 

So prepare a letter of denial.

[White-Dragon]

The whole situation is a disgrace, i have just emailed Which, the consumer group about my situation as recieving this sort of letter is deeply disturbing. I have no experiance in this either but from what i understand the letter is legal and therefore should be replied to. I will look to prepare mine over the next few days. How this is legal is beyond me. An IP address was identified and as i am the subscriber they claim that the ministry of sound believes i have infringed their copywrite. I have not downloaded the alleged file nor authorised anyone else to and they present no actual evidence that I have other all they can basically say is i am the unfortunate subscriber and that is zero evidence that i have infringed their copyright. i intend to fight this appaling situation and urge anyone else unfortunate enough to recieve one of these letters with their false accusations to do the same, this is nothing short of extortion and moves should be made by government to stop these upsetting letters being sent to innocent internet subscribers. I will not pay and admit guilt for something i have not done and if everyone sticks together it will send the message that we cant be bullied and extorted by these people. Anyone else in a similar situation get in touch so we can update in how the situation is going. cheers

[platty1964]

does your IP address change , i have used a tool that tells me what my IP address is and it is close to the one that they are saying but it is not the same ....

 

[platty1964]

Why cant i edit my own posts.....there is no edit button ??? ...anyway , would people advise whether to personally write the LOD or use Word as my handwriting is not very good

[car2403]

Why cant i edit my own posts.....there is no edit button ??? ...anyway , would people advise whether to personally write the LOD or use Word as my handwriting is not very good

 

It's this one, down below, at the bottom of your posts;

 

[stupiditto]

does your IP address change , i have used a tool that tells me what my IP address is and it is close to the one that they are saying but it is not the same ....

 

 

Does it matter, they have the name of the acc holder and if they didnt share or give permission to share the file then I cant see how it can stick.

 

We have friends that have used our wireless connection on several occasions and also we are a end terraced house so attached to a neighbours.

 

Some advice from someone in the know-

 

Mistakes are sometimes made in correctly identifying the relevant IP address. The claimant then has the difficulty of proving to the court, on the balance of probabilities, who was responsible for any illegal downloading. Much will depend upon who has had access to the IP Address in question. If there are many users the Claimant will be in some difficulty. If your partner is adamant that she was not responsible for the alleged infringement she should simply reply to that effect. If your partner has ownership of the computer and can trace the offending item an offer can be made to delete it. If it cannot be traced then your partner should say that it has not been possible to trace the infringing item on the computer in question.

 

What they are doing is criminal - Have you eever heard people say I paid them just to get rid of them. That is what these D/H are trying to do.

[stupiditto]

It's this one, down below, at the bottom of your posts;

 

I'm missing one of these buttons to. Thats why I have been double posting.

[platty1964]

It's this one, down below, at the bottom of your posts;

 

 

 

Nope not got one

[White-Dragon]

I'm going to write it electronically then sign it as this will make it legal. I just can't believe that as a subscriber I can be sued for any alleged illegal traffic that comes through my connection evan though I have no knowledge of it whatsoever. Where does the law stand on this? Is it in our favour or are we fighting a losing battle. Anyone with more experiance of this sort of thing please advise. Cheers everyone

[letsdothis]

Nope not got one

 

It must be to do with your post count being low. Maybe the site team have set the forums so that you only get the edit button after x amount of posts.

[letsdothis]

It must be to do with your post count being low. Maybe the site team have set the forums so that you only get the edit button after x amount of posts.

 

Actually, my edit button has disappeared as well.

[car2403]

Nope not got one

 

It must be to do with your post count being low. Maybe the site team have set the forums so that you only get the edit button after x amount of posts.

 

Actually, my edit button has disappeared as well.

 

Don't panic, Captain Mainwaring!!!

 

Ok, can you please:

 

* Log off the forum

* Clear your internet cache

* Clear cookies? (Sorry, it's a test!)

* Log back in

 

See it now?

 

Every user should be able to see the edit post button - it **shouldn't** have anything to do with post count, but I'll certainly ask the question and let you all know.

 

In the meantime, if you need to edit a post and can't, click the little red triangle at the bottom left of your posts, () where you can report them to the site team who will do this manually for you.

[letsdothis]

@Car

 

In this particular thread my edit button is gone.

 

In this thread my edit button is there.

[car2403]

@Car

 

In this particular thread my edit button is gone.

 

In this thread my edit button is there.

 

Ok, I'll investigate;

 

[stupiditto]

Ok, I'll investigate;

 

 

nope cleared it with cc cleaner and again in firefox and still no go

[letsdothis]

Ok, I'll investigate;

 

 

 

LOL

 

It must be a time expiring thing, after x amount of minutes. The thread I have linked where it worked, the edit button has now disappeared.

[fuzzybobble]

I had one of these letters for the MOS 80's album. I know I didn't download it, as I'm not into MOS anyway. There are only two others that have used my internet connection and I know they wouldn't have downloaded it either. My Dad wouldn't know how to download anything from Bit Torrent anyway, and my cousin only likes the crap the x factor winners churn out.

 

It took me less than a minute to do my LOD. I got red marker pen and wrote across it, "Prove it or F**k off!!!" Then popped in an envelope and dropped it in the postbox on the way to work this morning.

 

Like my battles with the DCA numpty's I don't waste anymore time than I really have to, when it comes to people trying to get money off me when they have no legal basis to do so.

[stupiditto]

I had one of these letters for the MOS 80's album. I know I didn't download it, as I'm not into MOS anyway. There are only two others that have used my internet connection and I know they wouldn't have downloaded it either. My Dad wouldn't know how to download anything from Bit Torrent anyway, and my cousin only likes the crap the x factor winners churn out.

 

It took me less than a minute to do my LOD. I got red marker pen and wrote across it, "Prove it or F**k off!!!" Then popped in an envelope and dropped it in the postbox on the way to work this morning.

 

Like my battles with the DCA numpty's I don't waste anymore time than I really have to, when it comes to people trying to get money off me when they have no legal basis to do so.

 

I like it let us know how you get on

[Goldy001]

LOL, great, wish i could be there when they open that!!!

[bazzer756]

I've had three letters in total - two from ACS and one from Gallant Macmillian. The ACS letters were about some film I never heard of so responded with a LOD using a template from the "beingthreatened" site - got a letter back a month or so later saying that as it was a template they were ignoring it. Not responded to them yet but I'm worried about the GM one-they accused me if sharing a MOS 80's album which I do have on CD, iPod and consequently my PC. I have used a torrent legally before to download straight from an artists web site. I don't really understand much about it but could having the torrent program on my PC caused me to have unknowingly shared music that I have? I don't want to pay out 350 notes but I don't feel happy sending a LOD if I have done it accidentaly. Any help would be greatly appriciated.

[kaminskis]

I had one of these letters for the MOS 80's album. I know I didn't download it, as I'm not into MOS anyway. There are only two others that have used my internet connection and I know they wouldn't have downloaded it either. My Dad wouldn't know how to download anything from Bit Torrent anyway, and my cousin only likes the crap the x factor winners churn out.

 

It took me less than a minute to do my LOD. I got red marker pen and wrote across it, "Prove it or F**k off!!!" Then popped in an envelope and dropped it in the postbox on the way to work this morning.

 

Like my battles with the DCA numpty's I don't waste anymore time than I really have to, when it comes to people trying to get money off me when they have no legal basis to do so.

 

 

 

 

like it:lol:

[8of9]

I posted this a couple of weeks ago. The article is a couple of years old, and as this practice apparantly still continues. It could explain why innocent people have been targetted.

 

The "evidence" might be polluted....

When a client asks for a list of peers who are downloading the same torrent, the tracker software automatically inserts several “random IP addresses” that are not in the swarm. They are based on existing sub-nets, but might be from people who may not even be aware that BitTorrent exists. This means that the evidence that’s being gathered by anti-piracy companies includes IPs that belong to people that were not downloading the movie or album they are accused of. Perfect deniability, as the people who coded the tracker software explain.

 

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