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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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I have been waiting for BF/HFC to let me know how much I have paid in PPI, It is well over a year since I asked, I just get ignored, I am at the end of my tether with them, I have reporpted them to the FSA well over 6 months ago but still nothing. They just seem to ignore me, has anyone else had this problem and what else can I do?

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:mad: gord the penny has just dropped, I could kick myself as I cleared this account late last year. I suspect the reason they have not contacted me with the amount of PPI I have paid is because they will not have a copy of my agreement and so they do not know! This account must have been on the go around 20 years and we were told at the time we could not have a loan without ppi as it was "company policy" I want to ask them to work out 20 years worth of PPI along with the interest. Does anyone know if I can do this and what is the best way to word the letter?
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I could be totally wrong but I thought you had to apply within 6 years of the PPI starting - or within 6 years of finding out it was unlawful (citing section 32 of the limitation act). Going back 20 years suggests to me that you are well out of time. Just my opinion though...........

 

Have a look here Payment Protection Insurance (PPI) - The Consumer Forums

 

 

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I don't think the limitation act would apply here, or would it? The question is not that the PPI was unlawful, it's that it was mis-sold.

 

HFC are required to keep records of accounts for 5 years after termination of the agreement. So they will still hold your records.

 

You don't state what type of account you had? I'm guessing it was a Current Account Plus or a credit card. I'm not sure how far you will be able to claim back but I would initially ask for the lot. Maybe another CAG member can answer that one?

 

You can submit a subject access request (will cost you £10) under the Data Protection Act and formally request all information they hold about you. They'll then have 40 days to comply with that request. If they fail to do that they are then in breach of the DPA for which you can report them to the Information Commissioner who can order them to produce the information.

 

You can also raise a formal complaint - they should have done this already if you told them you were unhappy. I would write direct to the CEO in Winkfield rather than your local branch. HFC react quicker when you write to the CEO (a different complaints team deals with it). The address is:

 

HFC Bank Ltd

North Street

Winkfield

Windsor

SL4 4TD

 

Another option is to go the legal route through the courts. Not my specialist area, but there are plenty of people on here who can point you in the right direction.

 

One thing I would avoid though is claims management companies. They will charge you a fee for a "service" that you can easily do yourself for free.

 

Please keep us updated.

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hello, I was told by the financial ombudsman that a desicion was to be reached very soon that was over 5 weeks ago!

 

Chase them - don't leave it that long. I'd phone them and ask what stage they are at. It's possible that they are in discussions with HFC regarding redress.

 

I'd chase them (politely) at least once a week.

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chase them, i'd get the info [have your sar'ed them?]

 

hfc have been fined over this, and are coughing up nicely.

 

i cant say too much, but i know a member here is currently almost successfully concluding a claim going back to 1986!

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I have also been chasing HFC since 2007 for a PPI refund. I contacted the FSA and the letter I received said that if I had not receied anything in 8 weeks to go back to them. 8 weeks is up on the 26th April. If I have not heard anyhting I will be back to the FSA. Did you letter not have a limitation time on it?

 

HFC are awful people to deal with. Its a barrage of phone calls or defaults even though you have made arrangements to pay a minimum amount per month. Wish we had never heard of them.

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well I finally got my money after nearly 3 years, resorted to using a no win no fee compnay in the end so have had to pay hefty commision but at least I got my money back! HFC are the worst bank ever they pray on people who are desperate for money.

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