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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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I have applied today to Yes loans and they told me that I had been accepted, and that the £7500 I wanted would be repaid at 174.xx a month over 5 years - they couldn't tell me the APR which made me suspicious but I worked out it was around 15% which although not as good as I was hoping for was a slight improvement over the current APR I'm paying. I couldn't pay the admin fee of £59 over the phone s I don't have a VISA debit card as my old one expired last month (thank god) and my CC is almost at the limit. They said they'd send me some paper work and I could send the fee by Cheque or Postal order if I hadn't received a new VISA debit card by then.

. Why thank god - well I've just checked them out and it seems that although I put the phone down convinced I'd been offered a definite loan, I will probably not get one at all or be offered one at a much higher APR, and that my fee will be nigh on impossible to recover. Although I did give them my bank details it seems they can't take it out over the phone without a debit card. Needless to say I won't be taking them up on their offer and won't be sending the fee.

 

Can anyone confirm that the fee won't be taken out via my bank account? They said it couldn't but I'm suspicious after reading the HUGE amount of negative press. As I said all they got was the sort code and account number.

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Don't know, but would it be worth contacting your bank and asking them, in writing, not to allow any payments to this company. If they then did allow a payment, I imagine it would be your bank who would have to refund your money.

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appears they haven't anyway - got the paperwork today and as I suspected they HAVEN'T offered me a loan, and they also ask for payment by cheque/postal order unless I used a Credit card or Visa debit at the time so clearly they won't be taking any. Won't be getting a cheque either. Definitely going to complain to OFT as they sent me a text after I submitted my application saying that my "loan application has been accepted in principle" which is clearly designed to mislead as they have no direct control over whether I get a loan or not so cannot say that I'm anywhere near getting a loan. Also on the phone they gave me a specific quote and left me with the impression that I had a definite offer. Their use of the phrase "Accepted as a customer of yes loans" is also out of order as it portrays a false image that I've been accepted for a loan - clearly no one could get rejected unless they were under 18, they're only a broker and you're supposed to be paying them so they're not going to reject anyone. Bunch of thieving buggers. The text is definitely my best evidence. Very misleading when they're only brokers.

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Oh Dear,

why didnt i read the info in this forum. I too have been taken in by this lot and like so many others having been "accepted in prinicple" and quoted monthly repayment of 135, a few days later ( after like 20 phone calls) I recieve a call today saying that they had founf me a lender, however welcome were the only lender willing to offer me a loan. so I was put through to a very rude girl at welcome and she completed the application proces with me.

 

However every time That I asked her a question and interupted her rambled off script she got quite annoyed with me. then she was pretty annoyed when I said that I Didnt want personal accident insurance and to take it off the quote. she also very bizarely told me that the rate of repayment (303 pounds dont you know... not the rather attractive 135 that yes loans led me to believe I would be recieving) was two pounds more expensive if I took the loan over three years rather then four. she actually said she didnt understand why that was.

 

I am so angry with myself for not researching this further. obviously I am not taking the loan. an APR of 60%!! funny how they never actually mentioned that. I was appauled to see a post that stated that someone had applied for thier experian report and found 7 searches. I wanted to clean up my credit file not ruin it.

 

I also do not want my information passed on to any other companys. I have been literally getting up to 6 phone calls a day. even though they told me not to apply for any other loans I got a call from another broker firm trying to give me a no fee service and advice and then patched me through to a lender!!!! I told yes loans about this and they totally dodged the issue.

 

I am so glad that I checked this forum out. I wanted a loan to consolidate my current repayment to make my life easer and by getting involved with this mob I have just made it worse. I intend to complain to trading standards and the OFT and I am sure that I shall have a hell of a lot more to complain about when I ask them for a refund.

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