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HIYA lexis200

 

and everyone else helping you here, you have all made me smile at the antics of these lovely people who chase us to get us to call them back

 

loved that bit about nearly tripping over himself your lovely OH :D

 

i am following your thread with interest as im also on the mbna radar,

 

got a few threads going - but wanted to wish you continued luck

 

share with you the other morning i had a call possibly off the same grumpy woman - she asked for my first name and i replied yes (at 8.16 in the morning picked up the phone without thinking!doh) and it was mbna, then confirmed with my full name, and she wanted to speak with me, i said cant taking daughter to college when could she, i told her well all in wiritng pls as ive already informed mbna of this, she replied we are a telephone bank as you well know and will call you again later. To which i replied " well no one will pick up the phone"! bye bye.

 

i am no longer afraid! hahahahh

 

have a good day everyone keep happy ciao laters MAZ

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hiya lexis200

 

thanks for the photobucket and took your tips but it wont work for me,i think my pc has higher security as my bro in law done it and i cant even paste a pic of the paperwork i rec from cl , any other suggestions sorry on your thread just wanted to alert you

 

my mbna also not readable, so im sort of stuck

 

glad you seem to be okay with things,

 

ciao for now laters maz

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hiya lexis

 

thank you, will try that out, i just want to show a clear copy for all to view

 

im away the weekend too so will be back monday afternoon onwards

 

have a good time and take care ciao maz:)

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hahah u are not joking are you AA99

 

dont you know the latest MBNA are an American Bank, well why dont they get Mr Bush to run them properly then! Guess they will get some money out of the pot too,my american cousins are going mad at the extra it will cost the citizens!

 

sorry lexis taking over on a rant on your thread,,,,,,,,,,have a good weekend all

 

ciao for now laters maz:p lol to the Muppets not you lot my dear friends.

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HELLO LEXIS

 

you do know you have friends on here we do miss you when you are not arround so we hope our antics make you smile when you finally get back on:D

 

im just logging in, going to now try that other link you kindly gave me to scan my stuff so ta

 

have a good day ciao for now maz

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hiya lexis

 

just dropping by but got beat by u AA99 haha

 

wanted to say hiya and see for any updates

 

have a good day taraaaa for now maz

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hiya lexis

 

thats fab,, but i had similar way past - and i really hope it turns out good for you, for me now - have had enough, just the way i feel about it,but really all this we do , we all have to find our own way in dealing with it, if it gets the result you want then that is whats important

 

will type more later got guests in a bit and off to get some snacks in

 

ciao keep happy and you did really well fantastic, no need to be rude, it should all be on the sars anyway ,,if they log it that is

 

ciaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo laters MAZ

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hiya lexis

 

found my way back onto your thread - hope your family and you are okay

 

the rest is just useless bits of stuff we have to give a bit of time to during this mad life we lead

 

oh i had that in the year, someone really wanted to help and then never bottered to call back when he said he would - i tried to keep records but it was a diff time, and need to go through the sars in detail soon as im checking the data protection info and want to see if they have recorded something they shouldnt have so going to see what im going to do about that,,

 

have a good day chat laters ciao for now MAZ

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hiya lexis

 

well done on that letter, im in a middle of mine to respond to them but got work in the morning so will put the final draft on my all/leic thread tomorrow pm and see what you all think, just a bit down this week with other stuff but will bounce back im sure

 

anyway keep your spirits up take care ciao for now maz

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thank you lexis - appreciate it

 

hahahah you have a good time, i know this pc does so have a mind of its own - honest Your Honour,,,,lol

 

ive half done my letter do you have time if i post it on my all leics thread to see what you think of it,,,? if not no worries

 

ciao for now maz

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okokie,,,,

me too, was going to bed at 11....that s a laugh,,,okay over to my thread nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww whizzing over llllllllll

 

cya in a bit maz

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hiya all

 

glad you had a good weekend lexis - me too

 

and hopeful, hope you are doing fine too,

 

anyway im really off to bed now catch up tomorrow ciaoo maz

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hiya lexis

 

well you are doing all the right things -

 

from what ive read and understand, by continuing to pay them what you can afford should they take court action you have your records to show the judge

 

also - await the sars and if not responded by day 41 then report directly to information commissioner office,

 

the final letter you have had from them is sufficient now for you to complain to the fos, it will ask you in their form if you have had the final letter and to include a copy in your fos complaint, (i do know this for sure for my Fos complaint im currently doing)

 

im sure the regualar guys will come along but i wanted to at least help in the meantime

 

am hanging about a bit but also doing some more cca and sars requests myself...lol

 

it will be worth it when you do get the sars, if you dont then i figure there is something they would rather you not know about and no problems the sars request legalities do state should be provided within 40 days, if not Report them ,

 

ciao for now and i do like the underlined threats on their latest letter MORE OR LESS how will you cope without their credit card!! yahhhahahah a lot better ta very much.....

 

see ya laters going offline got to go and pay daughters bill for college bits .another story tell ya laters chuck

 

ciaoooooooooooooooo maz

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AA99 what a brill idea....wow and sending it by email would jam up their server

 

 

naughty naughty maz,,,,oh i just couldnt resist that VEry sorry to all if i may have offended anyone with that line as well tis the month of Trick or Treat..lol

 

hiya lexis, fab letter, i really like it ,,,,oh i think i need to get to this point myself too,

 

anyway off to collect dd from town be here laters ciao for now MAZ

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hiya lexis and hiya hopeful, im back...lol

 

gosh lexis you too had a final letter , me toooooooooooooo yipee now off to the ombudsman cos they have sent me the correct illegible cca,,,,even trading standards couldnt read it!

 

so i know what you are saying, just put it all in writing and that way its recorded

 

but all these letters are costing us heaps of money, just to prove they get the flipping letter for our own peace of mind,,,,,arghhhhhhhhhhh

 

sorry ranting,,,,how are you otherwise , ??? im hoping you are okay with the family

 

anyway off to do a bit of a gander around catch up laters keep positive

 

ciao for now MAZ

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phhhhew lexis,,,,,,did i just see you explode.......sorry my mad humour - i want some chocolate now tooooooooooooooooooooo...lol

 

calm down,,,,,,,,breathe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,right, id responded already on my thread thanks for the bump

 

im going to do a seperate complaint for each card to fos, i think info by citizen on my allianc/leics thread, Yes its there on that thread -

 

just copy each info relevant to that card number and a copy of the Final letter you have previously had for each card ,

 

i m not even going to bother letting the mbna crew im doing fos, they will get told by fos so they can then throw their dummy out if they want,

 

am so cross im thinking of a further complaint by them more or less coaxing my child to take a telephone number for me to call them back,,,,,no way im not and i wish to complain that they have tried to involve a child in acting as my PA....not right, not just and damn immoral¬! rant over

 

so mental, i understand you totally

 

Im back to just say i will tackle this tomorrow and i will update you on what ive done as i shall try and follow on RMW thread too, and then i hope to at least guide you to what ive done so you will hopefully jump a few hurdles a bit easier if that will help you - will be in touch okay?

 

take care for now see you soon ciao maz

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hiya lexis and all,

 

you are just so brilliant at those replies,,,i feel so in awe of you, it looks good to me, again as a point of reflection when you include that in your fos bundle at least its showing that you are trying,

 

me ive got the pc to myself today so reading up further info still

 

had a call today but i didnt really give the horrible woman a chance to get confirmation that it was i, who they wanted just told her to put all in writing and no one is giving out personal info over the telephone, and whilst they may have i dont which one it was so yet again await if any letters arrive at all!

 

i wish you luck, as we continue but if nothing else, i can at least say hiya and keep going gal

 

speak later ciao for now MAZ

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hiya all again

 

many thanks aa99 that is good site too, i use normally the saynoto0870 but have saved yours too,

 

lexis, i know what you are saying - im just mulling over a bit of stuff, i m happy to go to court as long as i know what the hell im talking about, but yes im doing all to self learn, take others tips and go for the ride, so to speak, but hey im taking comfort in learning all about new stuff every day

 

see you laters, ciao for now maz

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hey brill idea there AA99, i was actually thinking the same

 

however, to tell you the truth, ive already attended one of those rooms not for myself yet....lol but for my friend who link was trying to get a court order

 

the judge was very kind and the solicitor from link was not well informed and although we thought we had planned it well, with a letter stating link should not have preference on a charging order over the other creditors it got stayed for a few months because link had not responded to an offer from a previous hearing but the debt been sold to link in the meantime

 

im now in the process of getting a cca for my friend, sorry off topic

 

i just wanted to say though, now ive been its very informal yeah their person and you and if you took someone else in like i was my friends support, and the judge

 

the judge said couldnt help us but if we had taken in court case law that we could argue a point of law would have considered our defence more

 

so what i learnt and yes it was a bit scary as i didnt know what to expect and in a way i wanted to know what happened anyway - in hindsight now that i now know all this knowledge, im no longer afraid, i just now understand that you have to go in with lots of info and get your court bundle in the best possible format to win your case and present legal info correctly and hope the judge takes on board the legal points readily.

 

i m happy to go with anyone i now want to reassure you all, its how you get your case prepared and whether the other side turn up at all,

 

just my thoughts ciao for now, MAZ

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But what will I do with my time:confused::)

 

 

hey lexis

 

time,,,,,dont worry, plenty to do here, lol

 

and eat cake,,,,hahhaha

 

 

keep positive :cool: and hiya to everyone else here ciaooooooooo maz

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hiya lexis

 

just read the updated info, i cant believe that mbna are such impersonal muppets, you see its good to take the option on getting signatures for our letters, keep those confirmations safe, it can be part of your complaint to the fos

 

i do hope they have taken your number off finally a bit of peace

 

im still doing my fos, but want to check something out with RMW first and then once gone, i promise i will see if i can help you to fill yours a bit more quickly - am off for the rest of the week this week, and this is now my priorty for me

 

keep happy and guess we have to tackle as much as we can when we can

 

ciao for now MAZ ;)

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hello lexis

 

back to form - good on you

 

you should write to them and say """ The B....... y Computer says NO" hahahah

 

have a fun day , i got some of my fos letter done but bos took over today and hopefully thats a good result for me so far so good

 

but back to fos with a vengeance and other letters tomorrow will be up early to tackle

 

see you all laters ciao for now MAZ

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hiya all

 

yes lexis, have sent you a pm, which explains all

 

sorry just got on the pc now to update :D

 

angel x

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hey girl dont you dare lol reply that is

 

 

lol

 

keep positive and take care for now

 

laters angel x:cool:

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Just jumping in here and I have contributed to another thread which is here

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/mbna/172769-mbna-agreement-now-threat.html

 

Personally I have my doubts as to whether the copy of your agreement is an exact copy of the one signed – as has been said before the column (conveniently containing the prescribed terms) on the left hand side looks out of place and it is highly unlikely that the form was designed to look that way when it was printed.

 

When MBNA respond to your s78 request they can interpret the regulations and get a little creative with the copy they send but under a S.A.R they are supposed to send exact copies of documents and they don’t have that same creative license.

 

May I suggest that because you have already had the results of a S.A.R that you question the copy of the agreement they have sent and request that they confirm that the copy of the agreement sent in reply to your S.A.R is in actual fact an exact copy of the original agreement.

 

If you don’t get any where with this then try the same thing with the FOS – don’t accuse MBNA of fraud (at this stage) – just tell the FOS that you believe the copy of the document sent in response to your S.A.R is an altered version of the original. There is a trail that can be followed to verify if the document was indeed printed the way they are inferring and the FOS would be in a position to follow that trail – we aren’t.

 

Remember, without that column of terms the agreement is completely unenforceable and I am about as sure as I can be that the original document wasn’t printed this way – I used to work in an artwork department and I doubt that a graphic designer would throw that together.

 

 

hiya atwozee

 

sorry to jump in here, im sure lexis wont mind as she is aware of my full situation with mbna too

 

im also in battle with mbna, they wont deal with me any longer so fos it is , but have been mulling over my actual request for them to deal and for me to be given accurate info on the cca copy, i got the same copy via sars and cca, so in theory could i then ask fos to investigate the copy sent in my sars as i believe its an altered version of the original - as we all want to know exactly what mbna actually have this may be the point i want to make with fos, which is what i had tried to do by disputing the legibility of my copy sen to me anyway but they closed me down with a final responce and told me to go to fos

 

could this be the road for fos to fully investigate like you say that we cant?? this would be so useful if they did do that, it would save a lot of stress for us all

 

many thanks angel x

Im happy to help with support and my own thoughts, but if I offer any thoughts to your problems please take it as from my life experience only and not of any legal standing. Always take further advice from the legal experts in your final action.:)

 

my new motto is,,,",Taking back control of your life and home - such peace is priceless"

 

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