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[seylectric]

Sorry, posted in error, please ignore

[2leftfeet]

Hi all,

 

Credit solutions have been sending me letters too about a "so called" parking offence that i know for a fact didnt happen

 

they have just raised my amount from £100 to £200 and im getting bored of ignoring them but dont want to enter onto the "hooked fish" list

 

is it best to ignore them all together or just send them a get lost letter,Thanks in advance and will be donating to this website for the brilliant information

[lamma]

don't write to them, complain to OFT,TS, DVLA, BPA, MP.....

[zigzagzig]

I just received another letter upping my debt, threatening legal action, being blacklisted and possible seizure of any assets.

Reported them to Consumer Direct and they advised I send them a letter by recorded delivery asking for proof of the offense.He said this would be better than just ignoring it because I would a least have some written evidence of trying to communicate with them should the matter go any further.

Of course they won't be able to prove this parking fine. I plan to ignore them from now on.

Has anyone been taken to court yet or had the debt collectors round??

[Fair-Parking]

Zigzag

 

As parking is decriminalised, it is no longer an offence. It's correct description is a 'contravention'. The difference is very important as you are not a criminal even if you may have parked in a way that led to this attempted enforcement of a payment - and because you are not a criminal you need not enter into any correspondence with the enforcers if you do not wish to.

 

Personally I would ignore them as silence is the one thing that enforcers find hardest to deal with. It tells them nothing, it doesn't reveal anything about yourself that may be useful to them and makes them do all the running and decision making as to whether it worth their while continuing the chase.

 

Contact usually sparks them into life, whilst fighting them tends to personalise the issue and make them feel they must get the better of the argument.

[patdavies]

 

As parking is decriminalised, it is no longer an offence. It's correct description is a 'contravention'. The difference is very important as you are not a criminal even if you may have parked in a way that led to this attempted enforcement of a payment - and because you are not a criminal you need not enter into any correspondence with the enforcers if you do not wish to.

 

 

No. DPE is not universal. Each and every authority running a DPE regime must have the specific permission to do so from the SoS-Transport (more realistically, his minions on his behalf) and be authorised by Regulation signed by the SoS. My LA are not DPE for example.

 

If a local authority is not authorised to operate DPE, then parking enforcement remains a criminal matter. Hence parking offences do still exist.

 

 

All of which is irrelevant in the context here as this is a private company, bottom feeding with no lawful authority to enforce either criminal or DPE

[Fair-Parking]

Pat, I realise that Civil Parking Enforcement is not universal, indeed the town I work in has not adopted it, but zigzag's case I believe is civil.

 

By the way the lack of CPE here actually works in favour of the parkers as the police don't want to know unless you are very stupid.

[AngryD]

Hi All

 

Thought I would put my update on, they have contacted me twice since the initial letter, on receiving the 2nd letter I emailed them to say that I do not acknowledge this 'debt' and that they have not supplied me with any evidence against me, as they cannot provide me with photographic evidence of this so called fine could they please confirm in writing that this case has now been closed. I'm sure you can guess the response i got - thats right sweet FA. Only another letter stating they are now adding £150.00 to my original £140.00 and if I do not pay in 7 days they are getting a CCJ against me - looks like I will be seeing these dim wits in court then!!!

[letshelp]

Hi AngryD,

Don't hold your breath waiting for court papers!!!!

[crem]

if I do not pay in 7 days they are getting a CCJ against me -

 

Do they not realise that they cannot just ask for a CCJ against you? Maybe you should explain to them that to get their CCJ they have to;

 

1 Actually take you to court (instead of all their empty threats)

2 WIN their case (doubt it from their paper threats)

3 Obtain a judgement that you should pay (probably a lot less than their

claim)

4 You refuse to pay (on the miniscule chance you lost, why would you

default on a court order?)

5 Now, and only at this point would you become liable for a (recordable) CCJ

[Fair-Parking]

Crem - Correct - with the addition that you can file a defence and even attend court to give your side of the story.

[AngryD]

They have closed my case!!!! I spoke to there legal dept (on a normal phone number) and explained that there are a bunch of dimwits and they said this case is now closed!! I have asked for this in writing, but think I might see elephants fly first!!

 

It's a shame really I was looking forward to seeing these jokers in court!!

[lamma]

if they actually had a case against you they would not have given up. living proof that it is a [problem]. pay attention nervous first time posters.

[zigzagzig]

Having received quite a few threatening letters with no evidence of my parking 'crime' I then received a letter from a new debt collection agency saying my debt had been passed on to them and it wouldn't go away! Not being a premium rate number (like CRS) I called them and told them the fine was part of a [problem] and I wouldn't be paying it....they put my case on hold for further investigation and seemed very genuine which it appears they were! They later said that they had received quite a few similar calls. In the meantime I had reported CRS to Trading Standards who looked into it and called me back to say my case was closed as CRS could find no evidence of my illegal parking. I pointed out CRS are criminals but they said it is very hard to prove. So I imagine the [problem] lives on then.

[lamma]

TS lied.

[fenderbass86]

Hi everyone, im a long time reader, first time poster.

 

Around August time I too recieved a letter saying I owed £85 on a parking ticket back in November 2006 (of which I know nothing about). I asked for proof of this and they sent a copy of the ticket. I asked for the photograph of the ticket on my car but they couldn't do that, saying that was only introduced in 2007 (which is false).

Another letter came saying an additional £150 will be added if I didn't compy within 7 days. I sent them a template letter from one of this thread's pages and heard nothing for over a month.

Last week their 'solicitor' phoned to say this case had been passed to them from CRS and if they were able to take a payment to clear my debt. NOPE!

They said this answer would go back to CRS and a court hearing might be heading my way! "fine by me, see you in court"

Im not giving in to these people and if it does go to court, they have no ground to proove the ticket was placed on MY car.

[letshelp]

Last week their 'solicitor' phoned to say this case had been passed to them from CRS and if they were able to take a payment to clear my debt. NOPE!

 

Hi Fenderbass,

 

As a point of interest how did they obtain your telephone number?

 

Secondly, I think you will be waiting a very long time before you see any court papers. DON'T TALK TO THEM ON THE TELEPHONE.

If you must contact them at all make sure all contact is in writing only.

regards

[fenderbass86]

That's how they got my number, becuase I phoned them when I got the first letter!

[letshelp]

Each to their own I suppose!

[zigzagzig]

Fenderbass

Just report them to Trading Standards/Consumer Direct. Although TS didn't stop the [problem] (saying it was hard to prove?!) at least they stopped them pestering me. Despite the fact CRS's letters are made up they still niggle at you and you are better off without them. Still don't understand why Trading Standards let CRS continue...surely it's their job to stop people like them? You would have thought so eh?

[lilal]

also you are only the registered keeper and are under no lawful obligation to provide any info to who was driving at the time ,even if you know who was

[fenderbass86]

Ok new material has presented itself. I've just recieved a letter from 'Scotcall Debt Collecting Services', stating the debt has now been placed with them. I have 7 days to pay, other field representatives will arrange a doorstep call.

Anyone had a similar situation? Im still not paying anyway, besides, the debt is in my name but I do not own my home, my dad does, therefore when he refuses entry to them it is not my doing.

[Fair-Parking]

Often.

 

Take no notice, nobody ever comes. And if they did they have no authority. They might as well send Uncle Albert to collect..

[zigzagzig]

Having received quite a few threatening letters with no evidence of my parking 'crime' I then received a letter from a new debt collection agency saying my debt had been passed on to them and it wouldn't go away! Not being a premium rate number (like CRS) I called them and told them the fine was part of a [problem] and I wouldn't be paying it....they put my case on hold for further investigation and seemed very genuine which it appears they were! They later said that they had received quite a few similar calls. In the meantime I had reported CRS to Trading Standards who looked into it and called me back to say my case was closed as CRS could find no evidence of my illegal parking. I pointed out CRS are criminals but they said it is very hard to prove. So I imagine the [problem] lives on then.

 

Fenderbass...please see my experience in quote above. It wasn't the same debt collection agency your debt has been forwarded to though. Hope it helps!

[letshelp]

Ok new material has presented itself. I've just recieved a letter from 'Scotcall Debt Collecting Services', stating the debt has now been placed with them. I have 7 days to pay, other field representatives will arrange a doorstep call.

Anyone had a similar situation? Im still not paying anyway, besides, the debt is in my name but I do not own my home, my dad does, therefore when he refuses entry to them it is not my doing.

 

As stated in would be a first if someone did actually call at your house. If by some miracle it did happen, treat them as you would any stranger calling at your house demanding money! They have absolutely NO powers whatsoever.

regards