Hello folks, Infringement date: 11/01/2018 NTK date: 22/01/2018 Received: 25/01/2018 Schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012 is mentioned Number plate photos were included I have not yet appealed Euro Car Parks are the company (BPA member) Vehicle was located in Bishops Centre, Taplow Was in Frankie & Benny's too long. Entered the car park at 18:50:40 and time on my receipt is 20:53:26, but we stayed chatting until close to F&B's closing time (11pm). Exit time was 22:59:16. Therefore I should have left at 21:50 and overstayed my welcome by 1hr 9mins. Most other outlets on site close at 10pm - the car park was practically empty. I do not think £75 for 1hr 9mins parking from 9:50pm is justifiable, expecially since 3 hours is free and you can park in Maidenhead town centre for £1.50 for that entire duration at night. I know the steps are: appeal, reject, request popla, appeal, win (hopefully). Given the above, which template should I use for my first appeal to ECP? Thanks peeps 2018-01-27-bishops-centre-taplow-sign-and-pcn.pdf

Hi, On 18 Nov 17 I received a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) through the post stating that my vehicle was parked longer than the maximum period allowed on 07 Nov 17. On the 19 Nov 17 I sent the following appeal to ECP: Dear ECP As the registered keeper of the vehicle, registration xxxx xxx, I have received your invoice number xxxxxxxxxxx. The driver at the time tells me that they did not notice any signs telling them about the time limit and that the fact that it’s a free car park they didn’t even think of looking for such sign. Whilst parked she was shopping at Tesco then headed to Costa to meet an old Friend for lunch, and that she is therefore not liable to pay you any money as she was using the shopping facilities. On conducting some research about Bishops Centre car park and shops; unbeknown to us it is possible to speak to the staff in the shops and restaurants and request that your car is exempt from charge, which is also free of charge. This means the 3 hour rule isn’t a rule in which must be complied with at no exception. As she was parked there on a Tuesday morning, school hours; the car park was less than 40% full, therefore she was not taking up a space that someone else could have had and no losses would have been made. If you reject this appeal, please issue me with a valid POPLA code. At POPLA I shall be asking for a breakdown of the genuine pre estimate of loss that the charge must represent, which might I add that since it was a free cark park, and also it was far from "at full capacity" then there was no loss. Yours Registered Keeper. Since then they rejected my appeal under the grounds of my vehicle being in breach of the terms and conditions of the car park. In the rejection letter i have also noticed that it says "This signage is quite clearly states that if your vehicle is in breach of the teams and conditions of the carpark then a PCN will be issued. To me they have admitted that it doesn't CLEARLY state this, but it QUITE clearly states this meaning they are not 100%. I don't know if this is worth mentioning. I personally feel that this is an unfair charge as my wife was genually shopping in the facilities where she was parked. And that it it possible to be exempt from paying if you speak to the shop managers, which isn't stated in there terms and conditions. I have a unique POPLA code, my question is, do i have grounds to continue with my appeal or should i just pay Thank you so much in advance. Zoe2640

Hi Guys, Another case of NTK for over 3 hour stay at Bishop Centre Taplow from Euro Car parks. I received letter in the post to registered keeper with photo of my number plate at entering and leaving times. Unfortunately my partner did exceed the 3hr free parking time stay there. But done bit of shopping there which would be visible on the bank statement. I am preparing appeal to the ECP in hope they will cancel their invoice. Can you suggest any more legal wording I could add to the below draft? Dear Euro Car Parks As keeper of the vehicle, registration XXXX XXX, I have received your invoice number xxxxxx. The driver at the time tells me that they did substantial shopping at several shops in Bishop Centre and that they are therefore not liable to pay you any money. Please find attached redacted bank statement with charges from Tesco and TK Maxx confirming they were legitimate customers and to substantiate their length of stay on site. I kindly ask you to allow this appeal on above mentioned grounds. Should you decide to reject this appeal, please issue me with a valid POPLA code. At POPLA I shall be requesting breakdown of the genuine pre estimate of loss that you charge must represent. Since it was a free car park and not filled to 75% percent at the time there was no loss. Look forward to hearing from you, Registered Keeper

Hi all, First time poster, I've seen some similar threads, but none quite match my situation so I thought best to check with your fine selves before acting. I may even have been informed slightly before action is required too. The vehicle is company car, and the notice I have a photocopy of has been sent to the Hire/Lease Co.. I assume once they inform ECP that my co. is in charge of the car, and they that I was the driver, then it's mine to fight... Anyway, our business is IT, I was working at one of the business on the Bishop Centre on 11th May, and they have clocks of me going in and then coming out 4.5hrs later. The free period is apparently 3hrs, and I was there for that time, working on the site. I had no idea this car park was a) anything but free or b) camera controlled, so wasn't expecting this. If I'm named as the driver, and this comes back to me, how do I respond? If I was unaware, I can't have entered into any contract, and therefore can't be in breach of it? Correct? All of the defences I've seen have based around either not being the driver, or having been a legitimate business user. I'm hoping that my company naming me as the driver, and that I wasn't a user of the business, will still give me a reasonable defence? The PCN mentions £75 due, but £45 within 14 days of that notice, stamped 20th May, which seems a little unfair unless they'll restamp when it's issued to me.

Hi all this is my tale of woe. Went to Bishop Centre Taplow. 21 Feb15 in the evening. Received yesterday (02Mar15) a parking charge notice from euro car parks. They were using cameras to capture entering and leaving times. My stay exceeded the 3 hr free parking time stay. I have been told according to the letter that under schedule 4 of the protections of freedoms Act 2012 they have the right to recover from the registered keeper so much that amount that remains unpaid. Needless to say I don't want to pay the £75 or even the 'considerate' 14 day discount of £45. There are signs in the car park which state the 3 hr free stay so do I really have any possibility of avoiding this? Any advice would be appreciated. kev