Thank you yet again. And I’ll definitely be keeping you posted don’t worry

Thanks MITM for your detailed response, all understood, do you know if it would be a good idea to request the prosecution ( I’m assuming that they’re in court at this hearing) take a quick look at the case with a view to dropping it ? Also rather than getting a letter admitting the offence from My Mrs would it be a good idea to take her into the court with me ? Yes I know how to treat her to a good day out that wouldn’t cause problems later with her being a witness would it ?

So here we go, got my summons today. As I understand it it will be for a “case management hearing” If I’m understanding this correctly they’re messing me around and instead of it being dealt with there and then they’ll adjourn for a date in the future date is for mid August and a fair old distance from me (Grimsby). quick question for anybody in the know, (probably MITM) What’s the likelihood of me getting it sorted at this hearing ? Otherwise I feel this madnesses is going to go on for ever so to speak. also, obviously I’m going to be incurring further costs, do I just ask the court for reimbursement on a win ? And would I be wise if the court is critical of the police to ask the court to give me punitive damages to teach them a lesson so to speak ? btw… if they did I won’t be forgetting the help from this group and would like to make a donation to help keep it running As usual all Input welcome, thanks.

Quick update, nothing new to report at the moment I’m afraid. SJPN was returned special delivery and signed for, I’ve not heard anything back yet.

.Manxman Exactly what I thought, I assumed that picture would have been submitted to the court as evidence. personally I think that the date of S172 offence charge makes it clear that they’re referring to the final S172 request. Not the first one that I replied to… they appear to not really want to question that any more and seem to be accepted it as fact it’s madnes I like MITM’s Sausage factory statement, there’s obviously only Braun in the factory.

Madness isn’t it. Btw there’s no photos supplied in their disclosure if it’s called that or is it evidence? I’ve just looked at the camera operators statement and it’s mentioned but isn’t included can this be added later by police or are they pulling a fast one there too ? Please excuse my probable scepticism that they aren’t following procedure,, I’m sure you understand why camera operator’s statement says “ a print of the vehicle is produced as police item mrs/01”

Thanks to Dx100 for getting the paperwork and photos up in this thread for me. MITM and Manx exile please take a look at message number 33, as I said you will be amazed police are questioning who driver was.

MITM message understood, thanks. You cleared that up perfectly. Have you not looked at my profile picture? You keep mentioning it as if you haven’t. That’s the evidence supplied by police. I’ve also put it on the Facebook group with another they supplied. You will have a good chuckle to yourself when you see it and despair at how the police can cast such aspersions. Please have a look and let me know. Thanks, Phil..

Yes he’s been very helpful and obviously put a lot of effort and thoughts into it. I’m very grateful. There’s one thing MITM mentioned and I’m not sure about, that’s the “Abuse of Process “ Im thinking this is a bit of a Hand grenade to be thrown in if needed… The question is do I go “all in” with my defence with the SJPN quoting pretty much every point MITM makes, including saying that the Police actions will cause an abuse of process if If the case is forwarded to trial. A sympathetic magistrate might decide enough is enough and Police have overstepped the mark, others might be interested to see it go all the way and how it plays out.

It’s madness, but then again this sort of thing is exactly why I don’t like the Police. They have too much power when they are judge jury and hangman. They start to behave as they like, Thugs.

Apologies Manxman, I did type out a reply to you earlier, god knows where that vanished to. Anyway you’re right I’m not a fan of the police but I didn’t pull any sillly stunts, S172 was completed properly and signed. I didn’t see any reason to give them ammo to use against me,,,, Little did I know what was to unfold.

Well done you obviously have some very good friends and contacts. Thanks fo coordinating them btw I’m assuming you have seen the paperwork I’ve posted on Facebook, take a look at those pictures. Yes they really are that bad, that’s probably why police aren’t including them in prosecution. Nothing to substantiate their unfounded claims there…

Thanks again for your continued dedication man in the middle, I’m chuffed you found the Scottish case

Please note I’ve posted redacted pictures Docs1.pdf

Quick question is this group the same as the fb community action group? If so I’ll post redacted paperwork there easier