I did as advised above, and I got the cheque today. Thank you all.

It will be fun, but is my order enforceable? I am the Defendant and not the claimant, and I believe there is further cost involved if pursuing enforcement. My thinking is- I never had the money, so I shouldn't bother, however if I can inconvenience and annoy them and it won't cost more than what I stand to gain, bring it on. I spoke to the court, but they just said I need legal advice.

£100 - They may well have sent it, but I have received post everyday since that email and the cheque is nowhere to be found. Thanks

Hello back again, is it often that VCS do not comply with the court order about defendant's costs? I emailed them on 13th reminding them of the court order and supplying bank details, as I wasn't sure how would costs be paid. They replied that they had sent me a cheque prior to my email. I haven't received anything, so I emailed again, and they haven't even bothered replying this time. They had 21 days, which expired on Monday. I couldn't quite find information on how to proceed or if it will be worth my time/money, so back for advice again.

I want to take the time to thank all of you who have gave me guidance, advice and reassurance. You took the time to read through all my documents, statements, evidence, emails etc and reply to all my questions. Half of the costs are yours(donation made), the rest, if you don't mind, I am getting a decent drink with - to help relieve all the accumulated stress. If one day I am in a position to donate more, I shall. Now I need to figure out how to get my money off Simon.

So..... I would probably have to wait for the decision in writing , but I wil try to summarise the decision to the best of my ability. The case was dismissed because VCS failed to convince the judge that they could issue a PCN for not stoppin, as it wasn't part of their own contract. Mr Pickup tried to explain that this was a charge for parking in restricted area of the car park. The court did not agree, because I explained I was not at a car park, neither on the red route. So the court was not convinced that I had breeched any of their terms. The judge did not discuss my other points. In my closing statement, I went through all my points that was that. Not sure how what happens now, but the judge said there was nothing else for me to do.

Claim dismissed, £100 awarded to defendant, no right of appeal. Will go into a few more details when I get home.

If by judge lottery you mean, my judge is decided minutes before the hearing. I think this is the case. They just told me that there are four judges and I won't know until the start who it is, and whether they have had the time to read the file or not. Oh well.

Wish me luck, today is the day! will update as soon as I can.

I emailed the court last week with the supplemental ws. I added a bit about one of the debt collectors being a headline sponsor for the IPC annual conference in my paragraph where I address the issue of additional charges allowed by the parking association. I am just going over my main points in preparation for the hearing. I have some questions regarding the day. 1. Will there be information on where the hearing is? 2. Is there anything I should be aware of when I get to court? How do I address the judge? Do I refer to VCS as the claimant or use them interchangeably? Thank you

I will include this bit about Jake, however I am not sure that I can claim they do not invest anything. In their contract, it does say that it is their obligation to maintain the infrastructure related to parking management( signage, markings, ets). Also, a portion of the "spoils" does go back to JLA( as per their contract, they redacted their version, but mine has the % they have to pay to JLA), so that revenue from PCNs may well be used to improve the airport itself, even though it is not directly re-invested by vcs. She has copied and pasted it, however she has added at the end that "This is supported within the scope of the tender document."

I probably will. In for a penny... and all that. Since I will "admit" to being served if I send a response, do I send it via email? They don't care to respect the judge's order or my request, so not sure whether insisting on being served via post is of any use anymore.

I also found the a copy of the old byelaws, which I attach to my SWS if I decide to use it. Good job I am not a judge, I'd be bored/annoyed if people kept on saying the same things in 100 different ways.

letters I have received ( the one for the reduced charge) and the second submission of the particulars of claim were signed by him.

supplemental ws ready. I am still not sure whether to send it or not, however I am uploading for your review. I haven't received anything in the post, so I assume they will only serve me via email. witness statement - supplemental.pdf

this is where Ambreen copies her WS content from - her boss' linked-in page Private Rights Trump Railway Byelaws! WWW.LINKEDIN.COM The British Parking Association (BPA) is looking to seek clarification with Department of Communities, the Local Government and the DVLA regarding private enforcement on railway land where Railway Byelaws are enforced...

@lapwing_larry I have referred to the Code of Practice in my original WS, however I am not sure how strong my argument will be due to it being currently under review. I have seen the same arguments from her somewhere else. At the time I remember reading it and thinking 1856, what is she on about.

Byelaws at John Lennon Airport - a Freedom of Information request to Liverpool City Council - WhatDoTheyKnow WWW.WHATDOTHEYKNOW.COM Could you please confirm if byelaws are in force in regards to traffic management at Liverpool John Lennon Airport and if so could you please supply any documents in your response including any documentaion under... just found this - it has a copy of the byelaws from 1982 and there were still in place at 2018, as confirmed by Liverpool Council.

with regards to the byelaws at JLA - they were signed by the Secretary of state on 11/12/2022 and as of 11/12/2022 are in place and the old ones revoked. Whether this is the complete process I do not know, but it is what is written on the second to last page. In fairness, in January 2020 the old byelaws were in place, not the new ones, and maybe this is what she is trying to argue, I don't know. The old byelaws were even more specific about what happens when a car stops in a restricted area, I am going to try and find them again. In her statements isn't she trying to argue that even if there are byelaws in place, the airport operator can pick and choose whether to apply them or the scheme, however they please. And that is why she is bringing that case with the railway company( even though that was taxi drivers not wanting to pay for permits or something like that, nothing to do with parking/stopping), with the judge saying both the scheme and the byelaws can apply simultaneously. I will include all you and FTMdave have suggested and upload for review hopefully later this evening. I have 3 options: 1. Now, if I receive a copy in the post, I will send my sup WS into court via post. 2. If I do not, then I will ask the judge not to allow it, but still prepare on the points. 3. Write and send my sup ws via email, because vcs clearly do not care about dates or method of serving documents.

Thanks for the advice. I am going to look out for anything in the post this week. I can prepare on the points they make regarding the byelaws and the right of passage. Have them ready just in case. Could you drop a few links if you know any, I will search as well. I am sure I have seen these paragraphs used by them before . Not sure what her first few points 4-8 are though. Something to do with her PoC. I feel like she has forgotten to delete them, after copying and pasting. I mean, we all do it, but she should make it make sense, she gets paid to do it. Also, I don't want the hearing adjourned if I can help it. Three years of thinking about VCS is enough .

Let's see if I receive anything in the post. I thought the date for submission is set and should be respected, but it seems similarly to the bylaws, everything is arbitrary and open to interpretation in VCS world .

I told them not to send me emails the first time they did( when they had to re-submit their PoC ). Since then they have posted the original WS. I have never sent them anything via email (apart from the email instructing them not to serve me documents via email). Today they just served the court via email and copied me in. I don't think they care or remember.

I am not sure what she is on about in paragraph 4 - 8, and what is that in relation too. the rest I understood as follows: the idea that there is no right of way with the two cases from 19th century supporting this and that byelaws are arbitrary, and the airport can pick and choose which ones to apply, or that both ( their scheme and byelaws) can apply. Questions: You say I can ask the judge, but should I( what do I gain), and if so, when and in what form( email, post, and do I have to send copy to VCS ) or is it at the hearing? Do I have to send a reply to this, in case the judge decides to accept their supp WS, then they should accept mine, if i decide to send one? Where/when does it end, do we keep on sending supplements to the judge until the very date of the hearing trying to make a point? It seems nothing is stopping them submitting whatever they want at any date. supp WS.pdf

UPDATE: today they have sent a supplement statement by email, and copied me in. I will apply shortly. I think they have already used it previously in other cases. She quoted a case from 1856. I will upload the supplement WS shortly. Do I have a right to ask the judge not to accept this as it is 5 days after the submission date on the order?

hello all, in order to prepare for the hearing, would I focus on reading more case law,/legislation, or simply read my WS until I am confident in delivering my points? thank you