Hey Ericsbrother, Yes I did take the photographs Some Cropping & Chopping:lol: Good To GO:madgrin: Many Thanks:wink:

Good afternoon ALL, My apologies for the MIA the wife's had a kidney removal, been looking after the kids and we've had an emergency water utilities company blowing up our water softener. Rendering all our appliances redundant waiting for appropriate machine manufactures inspection. Left in limbo without washing machine, dishwasher and to add insult to injury bathing facilities have been out of action running around relatives to have showers before school runs dropping off washing. “Thank Goodness for Understanding Caring Family” Ericsbrother I should have made it clear in my last post that since the NTD and going back to take photos of the signage the car park went under construction hence the out of order bag sign. Also to answer your question yes I believe they have been sent in the right order. NTD first and then around 40 plus days later today I received NTK please see attached document. Please could you inform me of my options and the best way forward:?: Kindest regards,

Good evening Armadillo, Ericsbrother, Silverfox & Others Firstly my apologies for the MIA my wife's due in for Major surgery this week and what with preparations/ kids things have been a bit manic to say the least. Are we not missing something hear there was a mention of NTD but ironically by way of my own failure of not getting their notice number right in my letter. All they have from my first letter is a person/me with a name and address with absolutely nothing else to connect the vehicle or ticket together. Therefore in essence if I do not write to them with a second letter giving them the correct notice number! Do I still qualify under one of the 3 remedy's or POPLA? Also do you require a scanned copy of the notice with personal details removed or are the pictures of the signage adequate? Many thanks in advance.

Hi Ericsbrother, The letter template we have already established I cannot really remember and does it really matter. What's done is what's done I cannot change the past but only my future. Your right I did write to them but I was not the driver on that day and their contract is with the driver isn't it, well I thought it was in their implied contract. You make an interesting point within your reply about the provisions of the PoFA being no longer apply is this because I acted without brushing up on the new methods of dealing with this? I would like a chance at correcting my error of sending the first letter therefore I will get photo's of what the signage says height's and position. As I would love to hear advise of what it actually is it you believe I should be responding with to the independent adjudicator. As for the ticket I can scan this taking out all my personal information but unsure if I would be able to upload. E.G does this website have any restrictions from new account holders uploading images or adding hyperlinks to their post? I don't know if this makes a difference or helps in anyway but you mention CPP aren't on the BPA Opproved operators yet they quite clearly state/ advertise their badge this on their website: The Car Parking Partnership is a trading name of Liberty Printers (AR and RF Reddin) Limited a company registered in England with company registered number 02920033. Registered office: 17 ROCHESTER ROW, LONDON, SW1P 1QT. Car Parking Partnership is a member of the British Parking Association and follows their code of practice. The CPP Printing and Permit Management Systems have been developed by the Liberty Services Group who are an ISO 9001, ISO 14001, ISO 27001 and Carbon Smart accredited company, all data and processes are managed in accordance with these accreditations Many thanks again for your time Ericsbrother

Thanks You:whoo:

Good evening Silverfox, Thank you for your rapid response and guidance:wink: Like I said I am unsure of where I obtained it and Ive only ever used a few websites/ forums. It worked for me once with Asda a few years ago. Therefore I had now reason to believe it wouldn't work again! Many thanks for your advise of ignoring anything further.

Good afternoon Everybody, I've been reading some of the very helpful replies to posts but unfortunately acted before reading:| Not a great start/ idea:madgrin: as Ive just identified myself for liability purposes. Please could some one tell me if this method is still the best/ current way and if I have got a correct understanding of the process so far:?: I did not realise you should wait between 28-56 days for NTK and this would cost them:oops: waiting for the POPLA code which is run by BPA. Appealing to who ?????? with the POPLA code number. Are we talking about appealing direct to CPP or Parking On Private Land Appeals with the POPLA code:?: Please Clarify:???: I received a parking ticket stuck on my windscreen in the first week of October 2015 asking for £100.00 if paid withing 14 days £40.00 from Liberty Printers AR and RF Reddin trading as CPP (Car Parking Parnership) a third party parking provider for a local UK hospital and used this template letter below replying in the same week. I have used before in a similar situation for an Asda car park which proved extremely successful. If memory serves me right I believe I obtained the from either Get out of Debt Free or The Consumer Action Group forums. Many Thanks for whoever posted it in the first place:-) Unfortunately I mistakenly typed in the wrong notice number in error :-xCPP have sent me a letter back in the second week of October 2015 and rightly so have said in their reply that they are unable to locate the parking charge with the information I provided to them. They have requested for me to confirm the reference number and are asking for my vehicle registration number. Of course they have my address from the letter below and I have no problem with giving them the correct notice number but am unsure about giving my vehicle reg as I thought I maybe giving them more than what's needed? In addition they enclosed an standard letter please see attached stating about contract with driver, enforceability of the charge and rejection of invalid invoice. Quoting previous court cases of prosecution as these quoted legislations were not applicable on private land. I believe some sort of scare tactic to make you think you stood no chance and to frightening you in to paying them. I hope their attachments can be read to shed some light on their bullyboy claims and does anyone please have a more effective up to date letter that I can fire off for my second letter. Or do I continue to play ball this time round extending on my first letter with the right notice number. Did try to upload their standard letter but because I am Newbe:!: without 10 post under my belt I am unable to upload images or include any links. My Letter Sent:!:in week one of October 2015 Car Parking Partnership (CPP) PO Box 635, Chorley, PR6 6NJ Re: Notice Number XXXXXXXXXXX To whom it may concern, Firstly your so called notice is nothing but an attempt to frighten people into paying your invalid charges. The so called notice is not legally binding as no contract agreed or implied has been entered into. The Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 5 (1) A contractual term which has not been individually negotiated shall be regarded as unfair if, contrary to the requirement of good faith, it causes a significant imbalance in the parties' rights and obligations arising under the contract, to the detriment of the consumer. I would like to draw your attention to the following article and believe that as your company is a private company and is not associated with either the local council or police authority, your charge is invalid. (There was a hyperlink included to an appeal now .com) I have not and will never enter in to any contract agreed or implied with your company nor have I broken any law or statute. I have returned your notice clearly marked "No Contract Return To Sender" as I have no wish to enter into contract with your company. Further action on my part will incur charges which will be chargeable to your company. My charges will be invoiced at the following rates... Initial Charge of £250 then £150 each time I have to respond in relation to this matter. All legal expenses and costs will be charged in addition to the above charges. Pursuing this matter will trigger these charges and by doing so, your company agrees to these terms. I look forward to your response within 7 days. Regards