Thank you so much for helping me with this - I was looking through the photos I had of the signage and it is awful. And your mention of the Unicorn Food Tax added on every time they write. Your amended reply is certainly a lot snottier than I would normally dare to do but it certainly tells them clearly! I will prepare the letter and get it sent off tomorrow making sure I get the proof of posting Thank you!

Ha - thanks yes I like this - coincidentally I have just been looking at my photos of the signage and thinking how bad it was and did not comply with any of the guidance listed even by ipc.

Thanks for your reply - I will have a look at the first paragraph again. They do mention the Beavis case in a 'frequently asked questions' paragraph on the reverse of the letter - it is quoted in reply to a printed question of 'I have read online that charges of this nature are not enforceable in law, is this correct?' their reply was 'There is zero merit in this statement, indeed parking operators have successfully enforced Parking Charge debts via the County Courts for a number of years; the most famous case being in the Supreme Court of Appeal (Baevis v ParkingEye 2015)'

The company are members of IPC only. I have drafted the following letter to reply to the Letter of Claim: I have received your letter dated and noted its contents. Your letter has a clear heading of ‘Letter to Claim’. Being, as I am, aware of the current Civil Procedure regulations, I cannot accept your poor attempt of a letter to be anywhere near a worthy Letter of Claim as it comes nowhere near to meeting the current Civil Procedure Regulations and I expect a court to summarily dismiss any claim later made by you or your client on that basis. However, due to your reputation and history, I would expect nothing less from you. So you fully understand I deny that any monies are owed to your client by me. The same applies to the inflated amount of the claim, the POFA and contract law are very clear on this point and again plenty of examples of dismissed claims are in the public domain. Your letter stating the misquoting the decision of PE v Beavis makes it look like you have never read the full judgement but like the other rent a threats see it as a panacea for justifying any old coddswallop you care to trot out in your correspondence It would be wise if you looked at the total shambles and lack of any claim you have and admitted it is not in your client’s interests to continue with this matter as there is no cause for action and I shall seek a full costs recover order for any civil claim made under the unreasonableness criteria. So you are aware I have moved address to - this is my correspondence address, should you wish to confirm your decision not to bother me anymore with this. I will send this off tomorrow - is this sounding like an appropriate snotty letter

here is the letter . It is marked as a Letter of Claim I attach the pdf files below I have attached it again- hopefully its readable this time letter of claim.pdf

I have today received a letter from Alliance Parking advising me that unless I pay the money they will start court proceedings and telling me that I should visit their site to get their defendant response pack before I then goto the Alternative Dispute Resolution Service to give my defense to settle the matter - who for this case will be The Independent Appeals Service approved by the Chartered Trading Standards Institute - it advises this will cost me £15 and is completed online. I have yet to contact Alliance Parking about anything to do with this case. I have read on a few websites that an Independent Appeals Service will be unlikely to be on my side as it is funded by the parking companies? Should I now be contacting Alliance Parking and ask for this defendant's pack or is this then giving them contact with me, or should I be ignoring this letter and waiting for them to start court proceedings. I have recently moved house so once my redirection of mail stops in the next couple of months they will not be able to contact me. The parking ticket was put on the car window screen on 21/12/19, the next correspondence was 22/04/20 reminding me to pay or face action (no photos have been provided by them), then a letter on 04/11/20 advising that I needed to pay £100 and if I didn't by 18 November they were going to forward my case to their litigation dept to start court proceedings, then todays letter.

Hi - thanks for your email. I will get some more photos of the area and surroundings. Thanks again

Hi, thanks for your email - I didn't put the photos up again as I posted them back in december when the pcn was received - on the photos I circled in black where the car was parked and also tried to get a photo of the area in the dark when the pcn was received. Many thanks

Hi, thanks for your email. Yes I have plenty of photos which I took shortly after getting the pcn. I have the no parking signs, road markings marking the no parking area (which are nor clear due to recent resurfacing) plus photos at night when the pcn was issued as the no parking signs are not in a well lit area. Thanks

Thanks - hopefully this will be the case! maybe millennium group as they had their registered office there. Thanks again

Hi Thanks for your email! I agree that I think I will here from this further - I just dont trust them so I am very grateful for all the help I am getting from this site! Many thanks

Hi, thanks for your email and the article - it made interesting reading. I can not fully understand what is happening with these two companies and the millenium parking mentioned when I looked at the Companies house site - other than AS parking compulsory strike off in march.

Hi Thanks for your email - and the information on the company! I have had a quick search on AS parking and Alliance parking on some other forums and it didnt take long to find plenty of posts (linking the two companies). I will wait and see if /when I get the next correspondence from them. Thank you again - I am learning a lot!

Hi, thanks for your reply and advice - very much appreciated thank you. I have read through the POFA and have seen the paragraph advising that they should give their evidence. I have also noticed that the NTK tells me that as 21 days have passed from the PCN issue date I am no longer allowed to appeal - this doesnt seem right to me. I am not going to contact anyone and will wait and see if I receive anything else from them. Thanks again for your help.

Hi Thanks for your email With regards to photos, I have double checked the parking charge notice - it states in brackets under the notes for 'Contesting this Notice' that 'mindful that the issuing officer has taken photographic evidence'. I looked at the appeals procedure to see if it would link to any photos but it appears that the appeal is me only submitting an email - so I would not be able to access any photos to the case online. Thank you for your time.

hi, thanks for your email. No they did not send any pictures of the car when it was parked. I have looked through some of the threads and also some other sites and guidance on parking on private land. it seems that I could well here something else from this in months to come from what i have read. I have the photos at the time including signage. I have the delay in issuing the ntk and what was also mentioned about not having the option for a reduced payment in the ntk . I have not contacted the company. i tried to find out who owned the building at the time - it is split up into lots of small businesses but didnt pursue this as I heard nothing. I will wait to see if I get anything else through I think. Many thanks again. your help is so much appreciated.

H, thanks for your reply. It is a great help - I did find a list of what should be included in the NTK and noticed the bit about early payment wasn't in there but I wasn't sure if this was covered by the early payment option on the PCN. After the advice I have received today I will ignore the letter and see if I here anything else. I have not identified the driver or contacted the company at all and will not do this. I find it very stressful receiving official looking letters like this demanding money so it is so helpful to get some proper advice! Especially when you know the area! Many thanks - it is very much appreciated. Hopefully I will not here anything else from them.

Hi Thank you for you emails and advice. I did try to self help - thats why I thought it was over as I hadn't heard anything for two months. It's just i worry in case I get into more problems for ignoring letters! I will ignore this as you advise. Once again many thanks for your, and others on this site, help - it is very much appreciated and has been invaluable to me in helping me understand (for this and previous problems I have had). Thank you!

Hi - Thank you for your replies. I attach the scanned NTK pdf. No it wast a fine that was originally given it was a Parking Charge Notice (attached to the windscreen). Thank you for your help!. HTK received.pdf

Hello I posted on this topic when my son received a parking fine on 21/12/19. I stopped posting as I was waiting for the Notice to Keeper to arrive. This has now arrived with a date of 22 April 2020 on. Before I received this NTK, I had relaxed a bit as I thought there was a maximum time they had to issue the NTK to me after the date the PCN was issued. (it has been 123 days between the two). Is this correct? Any advice would be greatly appreciated as to what I do next. thank you

Ok Thanks. I am still waiting for the NTK form to arrive in the post - is it correct that I must wait for this before doing anything? Should I be trying to find out for definite who owns that part of the paved area - the only markings to identify it as any difference to the public road is a faded white line and a double yellow line which is no longer there as the road repair had covered it. Thanks for your help

Hi - thanks for your email. I have sent an email to Swansea council road repairs to ask if they repaired the road - I will see if I get a reply. Thanks Lisa

Hi - thanks for your post - yes this is the area (the double yellow lines shown aren't clearly there anymore though - they have been tarmac over due to a repair). Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am still waiting to receive the NTK that I have been advised to wait for. Thanks Lisa

Hi, Thanks for your email. I will get some photos tomorrow in daylight.

Hi Thanks for your email. The area is like a cul-de-sac - on the left there are council parking bays down to a walkway. On the right is where the private parking signs are - there are no signs at the entrance just the private parking signs attached to the walls of the buildings it surrounds - it is like a small square with a gated loading bay at one side and entrance to a block of flats on another side. I attach photos of the wall signs displayed in the area - we were parked to the right of the white car shown and at night - I have included a photo of the area at night. Pixs are in post 1