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  1. I've received a section 144A(1) road traffic act 1988 summons 'continuous ins' case is: Motorcycle (Old, 1978) bought in the U.K. in July 2013 value approx £800.00 for the below purpose. I'm of East European heritage and the bike has ended up with family in the Ukraine (in a farm barn) awaiting my arrival in May so I can spend the summer touring Ukraine/Belarus/Turkey off the beaten track, although in the light of political events this may now change. Bike got there Sept. 2013 in the back of a van. (Loads of Poles etc carrying stuff back East) Customs on the Polish/Ukranian border had no interest as the bike is old (not wise to bumble about on a flashy bike in those areas) and came via UK/France/Germany/Poland so all E.U. transit and it will be shipped back to U.K. in the same way approx. Sept 2014 so no question of permanent export and well within 12 months. I have Polish family in Belarus/Ukraine/Poland and have often spent time out there. I received a SORN request in Nov. 2013 but sent them a letter saying 'no can do as bike is outside U.K.' as is clearly stated on the SORN application form. They sent back a 'garbled letter that meant nothing bar I needed continuous insurance. I must state at this point I'm not prepared to falsely SORN. Then I got the 'debt collector' letters wanting £100.00 which I ignored, no case to answer as far a I'm concerned. So... (a) Issuing the summons it appears the DVLA is claiming jurisdiction over a U.K registered vehicle that is outside U.K. territorial limits. (b) The DVLA appears not to be chasing me for SORN/Road fund licence/MOT..why..?? © I cannot apply for UK insurance if the bike is not within the U.K. Many companies have area/time conditions concerning the 'Green Card' (whatever it now is called) which would not in my case meet their criteria. I would certainly at some point be technically uninsured during my Holiday. It will be my choice/duty to conform to requirements of the country concerned, i.e. border purchased insurance (Ukraine not legally required) which is usually 'peanuts' as old 'motors are for poor people'..suits me. I'm retired with time on my hands so will turn up at Swansea on the due date pleading not guilty.
  2. I've received the same. story is as follows. Motorcycle (Old, 1978) bought in the U.K. for the below purpose. I'm of East European heritage and the bike has ended up with family in the Ukraine (in a farm barn) awaiting my arrival in May so I can spend the summer touring Ukraine/Belarus/Turkey Bike got there Nov. 2013 in the back of a van. Customs had no interest as the bike is old (not wise to bumble about on a flashy bike in those areas) and came UK/France/Germany/Poland and it will be shipped back to U.K. by van approx. Sept 2014 so no question of permanent export and well within 12 months. I have Polish family in Belarus/Ukraine/Poland and have often spent time out there. I received a SORN request in Nov. 2013 but sent them a letter saying 'no can do bike outside U.K.' they seem to accept that (obviously) but came up with section 144 and the summons. I must state at this point I'm not prepared to falsely SORN, I'm retired with time on my hands so will turn up at Swansea on the due date pleading not guilty. So as I see it: (a) By issuing the summons the DVLA is claiming jurisdiction outside the UK. (b) I cannot apply for UK insurance if the bike is not within the territorial limits of the U.K. And even so many companies have area/time conditions concerning the 'Green Card' which would not, in my case meet their criteria. I would certainly at some point be technically uninsured during my Holiday. It will be my choice/duty to conform to requirements of the country concerned, It has nothing to do with the DVLA.
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