I have to agree - what is it with people arguing the toss on these forums; they are intended to "help" people, not offer a venue for people to bicker pointlessly about the ins and outs of the case. Help people, Help!

I think you will find that a FPN is not just a receipt, it IS your licence until you receive yours back. Also, each hire company will have their own requirements in terms of licence production - I doubt every company has the same cart blanche rules; I do agree though, they may not hire without production of counterpart. That is why I suggested contacting the hire company direct; most european comapany's will have staff that speak fluent english. I'm sure that is the simplest way forward

You should be able to obtain a copy of the PO from the local authroity in question; your best bet might be to simply go to the appeals process - it sounds like you have a strong, comon snense argument against an over zealous attendant! The ticket should outline the process for appeal or requesting a hearing. . Good luck!

Quite correct - a foreign force can only deal with you there and then; its the same here, we issue on the spot fines or arrest and detain for court. Once you leave the country, there is no come back for minor offences such as speeding. Of course, as previously mentioned, they might issue proceedings in your absence and find you guilty; meaning if you ever go back there, there might be a fine waiting for you when you arrive at border immigration; most cases in the UK are dropped if the person is proved to have gone home permanently and this would most likely be the outcome wherever! It could also be a hoax like most people are suggesting. . .either way, my advice is to ignore it - how can you reasonably be expected to respond when it's all in a foreign language?!

Apologies, put my brain back in: Endorsements must remain on a licence for 11 years from date of conviction if the offence is: * drinking/drugs and driving (shown on the licence as DR10, DR20, DR30 and DR80) * causing death by careless driving whilst under the influence of drink/drugs (shown on the licence as CD40, CD50 and CD60) * causing death by careless driving, then failing to provide a specimen for analysis (shown on the licence as CD70) Endorsements must remain on a licence for four years from date of conviction if the offence is: * reckless/dangerous driving (shown on the licence as DD40, DD60 and DD80) * offences resulting in disqualification * disqualified from holding a full licence until a driving test has been passed For all other offences (including speeding) it is indeed 4 years from date of offence (valid for 3) Thanks for correcting me!

Just a couple of points: If you accept the conditional fixed penalty offer when it arrives, then your licence will be endorsed with 3 points which are effective from the date of the alleged offence. If you were to go "not guilty"but later found guilty at a court hearing, then the points would be effective from the date of conviction and not the original offence date. A distinct difference between the two. . There are ways in which to fight back, it just depends whether you want to take the chance. .

Hi - the no entry appears insignificant in this case (No entry's can only be prosecuted by the Police), it is merely advisory. However, it is the blue signage on the left that is applicable - the bus lane sign (incl bikes and taxis); in conjunction with the road markings, i'd say it looks quite legitimate!

Hi - I wouldn't like to argue with Buzby, but I fail to see why the hire company won't accept the FPN as your licence; the FPN acts not only as your receipt to say the Police have it, but it also acts as your licence until you gets your's back from them. That being the case, the FPN is your licence and the hire co. should accept it. However, the sensible way forward would be to contact the hire company direct and ask the question; that way, you will know for sure either way. If Buzby is right, then you may have to think of plan B, like who else could drive the hire car!

Hi; do you know whether the Police officer was in a traffic vehicle, or was it a panda car? If it was a traffic officer then they may have used an in car computer such as VASCAR or a hand held laser to measure the vehicles speed. Irrespective of what was used, the officer should have pointed out how they formed the opinion that he was speeding and shown him the evidence (i.e. - the speed read out on the device). If it was a panda car, then the officer may just have been using the Police cars own speedo; this is often fraught with danger - if he sped up behind him in order to catch up, then he may have incorrectly correlated his speed against your brother's. If your brother genuinely doesn't know which it was, ring the Police switchboard and tell them your trying to track down P.C. *** (name and no. on the ticket); ask where they work and on which department (uniform/traffic/firearms etc). This will give you an idea of where you stand; traffic officers tend to be more switched on when it comes to speeding; it's their 'bread and butter'. If it's a panda commander, it may be easier to fight. Either way, you must produce your documents within 7 days at the station elected on the ticket; if you fail to do so, you commit further offences. Produce them, if you want to fight the ticket, you simply tell the desk clerk that and they will hand them back after checking them and you will receive a summons to go to court later. There are ways to fight speeding cases, but I suggest you find out more facts and then come back for advice

The question is. . . .did the camera flash?? Most cameras won't activate unless you actually go through the junction, i.e. - actually continue driving through it, rather than just going slightly over the stop line. However, if the camera did flash - the Police must send out an NIP (Notice of Intended Prosecution) to the registered keeper, e.g. - the lease company, so it may take a month or so, by the time the lease co. or your company reply and it then makes it's way to you. Wait and see. . . If you get the NIP, then we'll worry about the next step!

I Agree! If the lanes are clearly marked out (with painted direction arrows, or a sign board etc), then this will strengthen your case immeasurably. Were there any independent witnesses (pedestrians or other motorists who saw it?) Or CCTV overlooking the scene? Again, these things will assist your case. Also, you want to contact the Police and obtain details of the officer/s attending and the Police incident number (if you don't already have this information), to pass on to your insurance comapany; have the Police indicated whether the other driver is insured/has a licence? You may want to ask this as it will have a profound effect on your insurance if he is uninsured or without a licence. Even if he is legitimate, the officer/s opinion as to who was to blame is also going to effect the outcome, should your insurance company contact them, so be sure to ring them and make sure they're on side before passing on their details to your insurer!