thanks for that Steve. i'm reluctant after the run around he has given us over nearly 2 years to let him get away with even a penny just on principle. a solicitor could be the only way forward, it just concerns me outlaying more money for it to potentially not return as has been the case so far....

i'm in the same boat. judgement made by court and date given for settlement payment. landlord has made no attempt to pay, or negotiate a payment. have a bunch of forms from the court presumably the ones you mention above which apparently aid enforcement, but i fear more realistically probably do not!

indeed i would think so too particularly as it has no basis, however the fact the judge hasn't thrown it out and as far a i know is scheduling a hearing is somewhat of a worry and makes me think i must be missing something?!

Hi, I have just recently won a case against my old landlord. It has taken 18 months all in however once heard by the county court the order was perceivd to be pretty clear cut and I was awarded 3 x the value of the deposit + the original deposit + relevant costs for travel, loss of earnings to attend hearings etc. The deposit was £1250 so it was a hefty thump for the landlord as you can imagine being well over £5k total. Just for background, the landlord openly refused to pay the deposit into a recognised body from day one, regardless of repeated requests for him to do so (to save any disputes later) and even links to dps etc by email for him to refer to. his reasons were because he only lived next door and it was easier to keep things friendly with him keeping it, further he had apparently checked with his solicitor who told him that he didn't need to protect the deposit (foolish). around about a month after the court proceedings were issued against the landlord, he belatedly paid the £1250 into the scheme, however this made no difference to the outcome of the case. Although the landlords defence was based on naivity to the law (which was a blatant lie) and the advice from his solictor the judge made a clear ruling (although the judge didn't like it much as he personally felt it was a harsh penalty) against him. At this point you must be thinking good for me i have £5k to buy that holiday in barbados - not so fast. Firstly, although the landlord was ordered by the court to pay by a certain date there is actually nothing there to enforce it. After speaking with bristol county court i was given a number of options and guess what? they all entail outlaying even more money in costs than i have already had to pay to get this far! Bearing in mind this guy owns at least 3 properties and a business and has no reasonable excuse not to have the funds, i can either 1. ask the landlord to attend court to say why he hasn't paid, if he can pay and how? 2. instruct bailiffs to attempt to collect a payment/payments. 3. do nothing and the landlord will never have to put his hand in his pocket or be repremanded by the court for ignoring the order. Neither option 1 or 2 will necessarily force the landlord to pay and even if he does he may offer to pay a nominal sum i.e £10 a week i'm guessing. Further to this, although the terms of securing deposits quite clearly state that an award in this instance is a strict liability penalty and landlords cannot counter claim against tenants the judge in one of the preliminary hearings advised the landlord that the only way he could protect himself from this law would be to open a seperate case against me (surely a counterclaim) to recoupe any costs that he saw fit. And sure enough he did. Obviously now i face fraudulent claims about damage to the property etc that clearly didn't exist at checkout (luckily i at least have some email evidence of this) which with some amazing stroke of coincidence is valued within pence of the £5k figure i was awarded! Not withstanding how obvious the landlords actions are, it still seems to be going to be heard in court. the landlord presumably intends to void a payment to me by winning the same amount from me. We shall see what the outcome is, however i'm pretty sure if he wins even 1 penny this would directly contravene the legislation that s213 outlines about counterclaims sure making it very unworthwhile for anyone in the future to take this path against landlord. sorry for the length, maybe it will prove useful to some. equally if anyone has any advice to me about how i get the sum i'm owed or get the landlords ridulous claim thrown out that would be great.

Hi, I have just recently won a case against my old landlord. It has taken 18 months all in however once heard by the county court the order was perceivd to be pretty clear cut and I was awarded 3 x the value of the deposit + the original deposit + relevant costs for travel, loss of earnings to attend hearings etc. The deposit was £1250 so it was a hefty thump for the landlord as you can imagine being well over £5k total. Just for background, the landlord openly refused to pay the deposit into a recognised body, regardless of repeated requests for him to do so (to save any disputes later) and even links to dps etc by email for him to refer to. his reasons where because he only lived next door and it was easier to keep things friendly with him keeping it, further he had apparently checked with his solicitor who told him that he didn't need to protect the deposit (foolish). around about a month after the court proceedings were issued against the landlord, he belatedly paid the £1250 into the scheme, however this made no difference to the outcome of the case. Although the landlords defence was based on naivity to the law (which was a blatant lie) and the advice from his solictor the judge made a clear ruling (although the judge didn't like it much as he personally felt it was a harsh penalty) against him. At this point you must be thinking good for me i have £5k to buy that holiday in barbados - not so fast. Firstly, although the landlord was ordered by the court to pay by a certain date there is actually nothing there to enforce it. After speaking with bristol county court i was given a number of options and guess what? they all entail outlaying even more money in costs than i have already had to pay to get this far! Bearing in mind this guy owns at least 3 properties and a businesses and has no reasonable excuse not to have the refunds, i can either 1. ask the landlord to attend court to say why he hasn't paid, if he can pay and how? 2. instruct bailiffs to attempt to collect a payment/payments. 3. do nothing and the landlord will never have to put his hand in his pocket or be repremanded by the court for ignoring the order. Further to this, although the terms of securing deposits quite clearly state that an award in this instance is a strict liability penalty and landlords cannot counter claim against tenants the judge in one of the preliminary hearings advised the landlord that the only way he could protect himself from this law would be to open a seperate case against me (surely a counterclaim) to recoupe and costs that he saw fit. And sure enough he did. Obviously now i face fraudulent claims about damage to the property etc that clearly didn't exist at checkout (luckily i at least have some email evidence of this) which with some amazing stroke of coincidence is valued within pence of the £5k figure i was awarded! Not withstanding how obvious the landlords actions are, it still seems to be going to be heard in court. the landlord presumably intends to void a payment to me by winning the same amount from me. We shall see what the outcome is, however i'm pretty sure if he wins even 1 penny this would directly contravene the legislation that s213 outlines about counterclaims sure making it very unworthwhile for anyone in the future to take this path against landlord. sorry for the length, maybe it will prove useful to some. equally if anyone has any advice to me about how i get the sum i'm owed or get the landlords ridulous claim thrown out that would be great.